How do you box a inside inside pressure fighter?

[Verstyle]

he fights on a line, right?

then fight on a circle.

that doesn't mean dancing away from him either. he may be good at cutting off the ring. you can also try an angular approach.

it is hard to suggest more without knowing exactly how he fights - habits, techniques, etc.

Hmmmm, picture Margarito with more shorter compact punches.

[j]

gotcha.

good that you mentioned the compactnes of his punching technique because one thing i would say would be to take adavantage of looping punches.

one strategy i have used before - go straight at him, before he gets to you. if you find yourself on the inside, straighter punches aimed at his center of mass will be more efficient than him trying to loop punches at your face or body. uppercuts and what are called shovel hooks will work. make sure you are compact. that way you have a leverage advantage and can be more explosive. now, getting more into this....


as metioned about the pivot - it is essential. i'm not sure how scientific western boxers take it, but in eastern boxing it is a science by itself. remember that the legs(moved from the waist and inguinial fold) are what moves you. they are what get you into position in the first place. in my training, we focus on standing before anything. then moving. we do this so that when you get thrown into sparring, you are prepared with good solid basics.

btw, how is your ward off defence? that can be roughly translated as how you can keep him from getting too close by using your hand, forearm, and shoulder mostly. it is good to combine your punches with defense. offence and defense as one movement are really hard to defend against unless you are a ****ing psychic.

verse - watch him when he spars someone else. watch his footwork and his intention. ask yourself - how does he cut off the ring? does he do it with movement or does he use his arms or body more to push you where he wants you? how does he smother - head down diving in at you or walking you down from a higher stance? since you know what style he prefers, and what he is comfortable fighting with, what would ake him uncomfortable?

believe me, i have quite a bit of experience with inside fighting. my style is a short to medium range style mostly. and i am considered trained enough to teach the basics of the system - although i still like to think of myself as a beginner. it helps to keep a proper mental state to where you are open to new ideas, etc.

hit me back with a reply. i like this dicussion.

[j]

btw, did you ever try timing just one of his power punches and immediately overwhelming him with that opening. every punch leaves an opening somewhere.

[Salty]

When you on the ropes, throw a hook but go behind his head and spin him round with it so then he in now on the ropes. However make sure that you keep your fist horizontal so that you can't get penalised for it.

Otherwise use your tyson like weeving, throw a straight at his right glove. Now weave under and around. Attacking his glove in this case delays his body movement as it acts as a recoil, and he then naturally throws that one once he has recovered. So at the end of this you will be about 90 degrees to him with nothing protecting that side of his face where you can let your power shine.

[hemichromis]

jab-jab and jab some more!

naa seriously, hit him then pivot. be ready to hurt him with an uppercut if he comes in low.

[Verstyle]

gotcha.

good that you mentioned the compactnes of his punching technique because one thing i would say would be to take adavantage of looping punches.

one strategy i have used before - go straight at him, before he gets to you. if you find yourself on the inside, straighter punches aimed at his center of mass will be more efficient than him trying to loop punches at your face or body. uppercuts and what are called shovel hooks will work. make sure you are compact. that way you have a leverage advantage and can be more explosive. now, getting more into this....


as metioned about the pivot - it is essential. i'm not sure how scientific western boxers take it, but in eastern boxing it is a science by itself. remember that the legs(moved from the waist and inguinial fold) are what moves you. they are what get you into position in the first place. in my training, we focus on standing before anything. then moving. we do this so that when you get thrown into sparring, you are prepared with good solid basics.

btw, how is your ward off defence? that can be roughly translated as how you can keep him from getting too close by using your hand, forearm, and shoulder mostly. it is good to combine your punches with defense. offence and defense as one movement are really hard to defend against unless you are a ****ing psychic.

verse - watch him when he spars someone else. watch his footwork and his intention. ask yourself - how does he cut off the ring? does he do it with movement or does he use his arms or body more to push you where he wants you? how does he smother - head down diving in at you or walking you down from a higher stance? since you know what style he prefers, and what he is comfortable fighting with, what would ake him uncomfortable?

believe me, i have quite a bit of experience with inside fighting. my style is a short to medium range style mostly. and i am considered trained enough to teach the basics of the system - although i still like to think of myself as a beginner. it helps to keep a proper mental state to where you are open to new ideas, etc.

hit me back with a reply. i like this dicussion.

Yeah the pivoting I'm going to start doing. He's just a quick in your face fighter, no jab or nothing just straight in. I try to do uppercuts which back him up at times but we tend to wrap up and such. I rarely see him spar cause he comes in the day time and only spars me and this other pro.

My defense is bob and weave and counter.

[Verstyle]

btw, did you ever try timing just one of his power punches and immediately overwhelming him with that opening. every punch leaves an opening somewhere.

Its hard to time him when he's that close to me. I'm a duck type of fighter so my vision is minimized from the head gear to see all I can.

[Verstyle]

When you on the ropes, throw a hook but go behind his head and spin him round with it so then he in now on the ropes. However make sure that you keep your fist horizontal so that you can't get penalised for it.

Otherwise use your tyson like weeving, throw a straight at his right glove. Now weave under and around. Attacking his glove in this case delays his body movement as it acts as a recoil, and he then naturally throws that one once he has recovered. So at the end of this you will be about 90 degrees to him with nothing protecting that side of his face where you can let your power shine.

I can see what you mean, so like pivot to the side where he's unbalanced and vulnerable.

[Bendigo]

This is a great discussion, and I would also like to know any drills that would benefit footwork--specifically pivoting and gaining advantageous positioning. I am a tall fighter with good speed and reach, so a lot of my opponents try and pressure me like an insatiable intergalactic fish.

[P4PKING_2008]

I do hold him and try to throw out my combos. He tends to respect my power when I'm throwing the combos but that ****er always has me on the ropes.haha.

I can't chase him around the ring cause he comes straight foward to me.

Do what Tarver did in the woods fight. Whenever he was near the ropes he held and moved away to the middle again.

The kinda fights that come from two inside pressure fighters are ones like gatti ward and corrales castillo. The only way you can win is via ko. It is rare you see someone outboxing someone stronger and better then them.

How come you were sparring him anyway?