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  • #21
    Originally posted by linkr23 View Post
    Why?
    At the moment ( i think ) his goal is to build his confidence. Why throw him in with someone experienced with a decent ameture record? We want him to build confidence dont we? Obviously you'll end up having to spar someone better than you but sicne this is his first fight i'd think he should wait before he spars someone like that. it could damage his confidence alot and that coudl change the outcome of the fight
    All of this in my own opinion of course
    I agree with you and the other guy also. I already do spar with diffrent guys then this guy. Not trying to sound like white hope but theres a pro dude at my gym that has somewhere around 20-30 some amatuer fights and has been boxing for 8 years, I spar with him sometimes. If you guys got a chance to read my other thread called "beat by a pro" you would remember that I had a hard time keeping up with him. I did not mention that I caught him a few good times but it cost me due to him firing right back at me but i guess its blow for blow when your in there with a beast like him.

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    • #22
      u dont look that bad i think u could take an AM fight and do well, a fights a fight and experience is good regardless of the outcome, at least u have the balls to get in there. how long u been boxing for? based on that video it looks like u know a few things but could def improve. in 2 months time if u train day in and day out u could defintely be ready to **** with some AMs. keep us posted on the training and all the **** u do and progress and stuff. good luck man!

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      • #23
        Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
        u dont look that bad i think u could take an AM fight and do well, a fights a fight and experience is good regardless of the outcome, at least u have the balls to get in there. how long u been boxing for? based on that video it looks like u know a few things but could def improve. in 2 months time if u train day in and day out u could defintely be ready to **** with some AMs. keep us posted on the training and all the **** u do and progress and stuff. good luck man!
        thanks speedkillz! Ya starting this week ill try to tape every workout,sparring,jump rope, and conditioning drills,bagwork(mitts,speedbag,double end,heavy) and last but not least shadowboxing. Ill try to get a video of each of these workouts once or twice a week for the next several weeks. Thanks to everyone who commented, weather it was good,bad or ok!
        O and ya speedkillz I have been boxing for about 8 months and like i said before i was out of shape so bad when i started boxing that it took me 9 minutes to run a mile and sometimes 10 and I weighed 189
        Last edited by boxing4ever; 06-17-2007, 12:36 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by boxing4ever View Post
          thanks speedkillz! Ya starting this week ill try to tape every workout,sparring,jump rope, and conditioning drills,bagwork(mitts,speedbag,double end,heavy) and last but not least shadowboxing. Ill try to get a video of each of these workouts once or twice a week for the next several weeks. Thanks to everyone who commented, weather it was good,bad or ok!
          O and ya speedkillz I have been boxing for about 8 months and like i said before i was out of shape so bad when i started boxing that it took me 9 minutes to run a mile and sometimes 10 and I weighed 189

          yea i'd like to see some more of ur vids. one other thing i can comment on in these vids, now mind u im no trainer, but wut i see is when u throw certain punches (jab, right) u move back, which is cool, but it looks like u lift ur head up a little as u do it, BIG MISTAKE! next sparrin try and jab and instead of movin back, move to the side and stick a hand in his face so he cant hit u, or u could jab, jab and weave in (esp on a taller dude like he was) and hit 2 , 3 body shots and come upstairs and whatever ur last punch was, circle around to that side, so if u hit wit a left hook, pivot to the left, and then **** ****, if it was a right, circle to the right, and **** ****. when u got him coverin up and off balance, UNLEASH, for only goin for 9 months u look pretty solid imo. keep it up

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          • #25
            Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
            yea i'd like to see some more of ur vids. one other thing i can comment on in these vids, now mind u im no trainer, but wut i see is when u throw certain punches (jab, right) u move back, which is cool, but it looks like u lift ur head up a little as u do it, BIG MISTAKE! next sparrin try and jab and instead of movin back, move to the side and stick a hand in his face so he cant hit u, or u could jab, jab and weave in (esp on a taller dude like he was) and hit 2 , 3 body shots and come upstairs and whatever ur last punch was, circle around to that side, so if u hit wit a left hook, pivot to the left, and then **** ****, if it was a right, circle to the right, and **** ****. when u got him coverin up and off balance, UNLEASH, for only goin for 9 months u look pretty solid imo. keep it up
            thanks and ya you hit it right on the dot, I developed this bad habbit early in sparring and it was alot worse acouple months ago! It was so bad that when someone even threw a jab around my face my head would pop back due to natural human instincs of not wanting to get or moving away from the punch, but i worked on it for a little even since then and im still working on doing it. one drill ive dont alot to fix this problem is whenever i hit the bags i put a tennis ball under my chin and if that tennis ball falls then that means my chin came up and I have to correct that. o and thanks for the circle comment ill make sure i try that next time(i never thought of that) it sounds good im goona try it from now on. o and its 8 months lol not 9

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            • #26
              Originally posted by boxing4ever View Post
              thanks and ya you hit it right on the dot, I developed this bad habbit early in sparring and it was alot worse acouple months ago! It was so bad that when someone even threw a jab around my face my head would pop back due to natural human instincs of not wanting to get or moving away from the punch, but i worked on it for a little even since then and im still working on doing it. one drill ive dont alot to fix this problem is whenever i hit the bags i put a tennis ball under my chin and if that tennis ball falls then that means my chin came up and I have to correct that. o and thanks for the circle comment ill make sure i try that next time(i never thought of that) it sounds good im goona try it from now on. o and its 8 months lol not 9

              yea the tennis ball thing is a great thing. i use it always, that and there's this thing ringside used to have called the...umm, well i forget, but its a thing u strap on to the bag (with velcro), and it swings around everywhere when ur hittin the bag and its like ur gettin counterpunches its a great training tool for blocking and for ducking. i wish they still made it cuz the one at my gym is about to retire. now that i think about it, u jus need to get a double end bag and jus tie it with a rope around the top of ur heavy bag and it could be a counterpunching buddy everytime the bag is movin. oh man thats good glad i thought of that!!!

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              • #27
                He should already have that level of confidence if hes ready to fight, confidence shouldnt even be an issue. Your saying you want to put him in the ring with someone that has no skills an someone that he can beat up? That makes no sense, then he will feel like hes ready, he'll step into the ring with another amateur who has experiance and most likely lose..

                If he spars someone with experiance, and he does well against them, he knows hes ready, if he doesnt do so well, he knows his flaws and what he needs to work on, he will know what to expect his first fight..

                IMO, in a fight, a goal should never be to build your confidence, it should already be there, if your not confident in yourself, your definately not ready.. The goal should be to be prepared for anything and everything thats a possibility in that ring..

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Golden-Gloves View Post
                  He should already have that level of confidence if hes ready to fight, confidence shouldnt even be an issue. Your saying you want to put him in the ring with someone that has no skills an someone that he can beat up? That makes no sense, then he will feel like hes ready, he'll step into the ring with another amateur who has experiance and most likely lose..

                  If he spars someone with experiance, and he does well against them, he knows hes ready, if he doesnt do so well, he knows his flaws and what he needs to work on, he will know what to expect his first fight..

                  IMO, in a fight, a goal should never be to build your confidence, it should already be there, if your not confident in yourself, your definately not ready.. The goal should be to be prepared for anything and everything thats a possibility in that ring..
                  u need to fight to build confidence and skill, do you not?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Golden-Gloves View Post
                    He should already have that level of confidence if hes ready to fight, confidence shouldnt even be an issue. Your saying you want to put him in the ring with someone that has no skills an someone that he can beat up? That makes no sense, then he will feel like hes ready, he'll step into the ring with another amateur who has experiance and most likely lose..

                    If he spars someone with experiance, and he does well against them, he knows hes ready, if he doesnt do so well, he knows his flaws and what he needs to work on, he will know what to expect his first fight..

                    IMO, in a fight, a goal should never be to build your confidence, it should already be there, if your not confident in yourself, your definately not ready.. The goal should be to be prepared for anything and everything thats a possibility in that ring..
                    no offense but for the Third time i say this and in no way am I trying to brag! there is 1 active pro and 1 retired pro at my gym! I spar with the pro guy most of the time when he comes in, Its unexplainable when we spar yes i get outboxed but whenever i get a hit on him or two I always have to pay for it! not to mention that the sparring tricks and my defense skills are penetrated through by him and when i spar with him its almost that i have to be perfect to keep up. So back on topic that guy is not the same boxer I will be boxing come my first fight! theres no way in hell im goona have to fight my first fight with a 21 year old pro thats been boxing for 8 years! so simply put I spar him about once a week and the other days i spar taller guys that are within 20-30 pounds my weight

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by SpeedKillz View Post
                      u need to fight to build confidence and skill, do you not?
                      Confidence should already be there, sparring is where you develop skill - whats your point?

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