Boxing useless in a Bar Brawl?

[Southpaw Stinger]

I will quote here: most fights are finished in 3 seconds. 95% of those that arnt, go to the ground

A street fight that last 10 seconds would be considered long. usually the guy who lands the first hard blow wins the fight.

[GR@Y SKIEZ]

my box cutter is my best friend..........boxing is not useless in the street, it actually gives you the advantage....but when worste comes to worste, its good to have some kind of weapon....i rather have it and not need it, they to need it and not have it....

[Tuggers1986]

Boxing WOULD help in a bar brawl. a boxer would be the same as every other guy in the bar except hed be the one who knows how to fight.

[Bucktown Beast]

you are kidding right? most fights ive been in or seen end in 3 punches maximum on the street

3 punches maximum? lolz...Are u referring to Tyson vs Mitch Green or something? You must not have seen many street fights. Like Platinum said, if a street fight is lucky enough to last more than 3 seconds standing up, then maybe a fight can be ended with one punch. I can't remember the last time I saw or was in a fight that didn't go to the ground. Street fights wind up being a sloppy mess until it was broken up. I haven't even seen Kimbo Slice knock someone out in 3 seconds.

Sorry to say, but a lot of people who wonder the benefit of boxing in a street fight, have either never boxed, or never been in a street fight. Its easy to talk a good game, but you won't know unless you have real boxing skills and have found yourself in a street fight trying to use them.

[BrooklynBomber]

Boxing would help in a bar brawl, ability to throw fast hard punches that can usually knock out a regular person always helps. You just wont look pretty doing it. But street fight/ bar brawls usually never look pretty.

[platinummatt!]

The whole 3 second thing is to do with hitting them first basically and that being the end of it. And yes, Alot of fights end up a sloppy mess on the floor.

but boxing does count ALOT. Average guy VS boxer. Its gonna be boxer, really isnt it.

Geoff Thompson was a bouncer for 10 years in some of the roughest clubs in coventry. He estimates over 300 fights. Hes an ABA instructor, wrestling instructor, 1st dan in karate, 6th an in Judo ETC...

And he says if he could only have one martial art or whatever, itd be boxing.
But he says hed never only have one, itsbe boxing then grappling ( judo, jujitsu, catch wrestling ) Then Thai.

[Bucktown Beast]

The whole 3 second thing is to do with hitting them first basically and that being the end of it. And yes, Alot of fights end up a sloppy mess on the floor.

but boxing does count ALOT. Average guy VS boxer. Its gonna be boxer, really isnt it.

Geoff Thompson was a bouncer for 10 years in some of the roughest clubs in coventry. He estimates over 300 fights. Hes an ABA instructor, wrestling instructor, 1st dan in karate, 6th an in Judo ETC...

And he says if he could only have one martial art or whatever, itd be boxing.
But he says hed never only have one, itsbe boxing then grappling ( judo, jujitsu, catch wrestling ) Then Thai.

Don't misquote me and say that boxing doesnt HELP in a street fight. Ofcourse it does. But people are overestimating its value. If I had to choose between having boxing skills in a street fight or NOT having any, then obviously Im gonna go with the former. Because you play in the NBA, doesn't mean you can be a successful street baller and tour with And 1 does it? Ofcourse your experience will help, but its not the same thing.

Don't know who Geoff Thompson is, but if he thinks boxing is the best discipline to have, than thats his choice. I would think that being a bouncer, grappling would be the best thing to know.

The point I'm making is that a man threatening you and testing your pride in the street puts you in a whole different state of mind then when you are in a boxing ring. MMA is much closer to street fighting than is boxing. Take a skilled MMA guy and put him against a skilled boxer in the street, and the MMA guy destroys.

[me2007]

I can only speak from experience...i have been in 5 streetfights, and all of them have ended in a few seconds...

If you can`t put someone down who has no technical fighting skills then you have no business talking about fighting or boxing.

kimbo slice fights people half his size...the only fight i`ve seen which lasted more than 30 seconds was the one where he fought sean gannon where kimbo ended up asleep on the floor.

You are talking about two trained people fighting, i am talking about a boxer versus a drunk or unskilled slob.

[Bucktown Beast]

You are talking about two trained people fighting, i am talking about a boxer versus a drunk or unskilled slob.

Well I was using the MMA thing as an example. Boxer vs non-boxer, = advantage boxer. Im not denying that. But people are just failing to realize how different things can go down in the street than in a boxing ring. Its not as cookie cutter as yall are making it seem. You can have your fists taken away from you in a split second if some crazy guy bear hugs you and slams you.

[platinummatt!]

UFC is closer to streetfighting. But Id still take boxing over and other form of martial art. So if average guy fights prime tyson, then tysons gonna win, but his boxing skills dont make that much of a difference?