Are there ten legit title contenders at heavyweight?

[Marchegiano]

Ortiz is as legit contender as Pulev, Pulev is actually ranked higher by boxrec, having one on your list and not the other one is bs

Given mine is the only one provided prior to your post I have to assume this is directed at me?

That's fair but you didn't seem to catch my justification for the overall list. I favored claims to titles over resume, hard. As far as resume is concerned I might put Pulev over Ortiz. They're about equal really, but, Kubrat has a bit more I think. Old washed outs like Peter don't usually make the cut, but, compared to Ortiz's scalps I'd give credit to Pulev for wins like that.

Pulev's highest title is an international though. Ortiz's is a world. Ergo Ortiz achieved a higher status in boxing than Pulev ever has.

Hunter instead of Bryan was the only deviation but tbh I'd forgotten Bryan even has an interim title.


Let me re-word the whole deal

1. Won every world belt
2. Won most world belts x2
3. Most defenses/most historical world belt
4. Won most world belts
5. Won a legitimate world belt and defended it against a legitimate contender
6. Won a world interim
7. Won a world regular
8. Won a world silver
9. Thought Hunter had Bryan's interim, but, the Pov fight is still a good reason. Originally I was saying I put him over Whyte because Whyte's top is interim level too and he drew pov instead of being KO'd however Whyte does have the better resume. Now I have to admit, Whyte has the better title too, my mistake.
10. Won a world silver


Silver = Interim

Or

1 Real Champ
2 Close but not yet
3 Respectable but not that close
4 respectable but not that close
5 Respectable albeit far from true champion status
6. fake champ
7. fake champ
8. fake champ
9. my bad, meant to be a fake champ
10. fake champ.


If I'd continued I'd've really got yer goat with names like Martin and Stiverne. Former real champions who were **** but still did more than say Hrgovic who probably will achieve a better resume than either, and better showings, but hasn't done **** all yet.

Anyway, yeah, Pulev is as legit as any other title contender. There's only three actually interesting HWs. Maybe four with Joyce doing the right **** for a new face.

Also, boxrec can eat a ****. Their rankings are meaningless.

[Marchegiano]

Anyone asking if ten legit title contenders exist haven’t watched boxing long enough because it’s never that high at one time , until now .

1 .Hrgovic
2. Joyce
3. Usyk
4. Wilder
5. Povetkin
6.Whyte
7. Mahkmudov
8. Gassiev
9. Wallin
10. Dubois

You have to look at these names just here and see how dangerous the division is ,anyone of these guys is a contender to get a title some more then others obviously.

Not only is your list **** and full of mugs who have done nothing, but, you're wrong. We call the golden era the golden era for exactly that reason. It had the contenders, dumbass

[REDEEMER]

Not only is your list **** and full of mugs who have done nothing, but, you're wrong. We call the golden era the golden era for exactly that reason. It had the contenders, dumbass

Half of my list are former champions and more then half were international champions along with 5 Olympic champions . Not very bright are you ? Ha

[Marchegiano]

Half of my list are former champions and more then half were international champions along with 5 Olympic champions . Not very bright are you ? Ha

It's a sad as **** trend among fans who are relatively new.

Amateur feats don't ****ing matter. Period. Putting up a guy because "but him done well olympics doe" is ****ing dumb. Look at Wilder's resume.

Gold Medal? Eat a **** ya dumb prick. Maybe in a few years you'll learn the game, but, I doubt it. Your ****** ass will still be here telling us we ought to rate a pro based on his amateur experience


1 .Hrgovic - Not even a resume let alone a champ, but he's won the same award Harrison won doe.

2. Joyce - Silver gets you two. Wow

3. Usyk - CW doesn't mean **** at HW, see Moore.

4. Wilder - Legit

5. Povetkin - Legit

6. Whyte - Legit

7. Mahkmudov - WTF? This guy did **** all in ams, **** all in wsb, and look, as a pro he's done what? Stfu.

8. Gassiev - CW who didn't amount to **** at CW let alone HW. One fight against a bum but let's rate him anyway.

9. Wallin - Only reason anyone's talking about him is because he got lotteried by Fury. Dude's not even the best nordic let alone a world contender. Done **** all.

10. Dubois - He's alright but there's clearly men who did more in the division.


Like I said, most of your list did nothing. Rank them based on awards that have **** all to do with where they are while telling us you know boxing. Go **** yerself, you wanted attention and I'm giving it to you. You knew your list was **** when you wrote it.

But dem Olympians doe.

But dem belts not at HW doe.

But dem did something in Ams doe.

3 of them have no ****ing excuse given but let's act like they're unbrella'd by "Half of my list are former champions and more then half were international champions along with 5 Olympic champions . Not very bright are you ? Ha"

****ing moron.

[REDEEMER]

It's a sad as **** trend among fans who are relatively new.

Amateur feats don't ****ing matter. Period. Putting up a guy because "but him done well olympics doe" is ****ing dumb. Look at Wilder's resume.

Gold Medal? Eat a **** ya dumb prick. Maybe in a few years you'll learn the game, but, I doubt it. Your ****** ass will still be here telling us we ought to rate a pro based on his amateur experience


1 .Hrgovic - Not even a resume let alone a champ, but he's won the same award Harrison won doe.

2. Joyce - Silver gets you two. Wow

3. Usyk - CW doesn't mean **** at HW, see Moore.

4. Wilder - Legit

5. Povetkin - Legit

6. Whyte - Legit

7. Mahkmudov - WTF? This guy did **** all in ams, **** all in wsb, and look, as a pro he's done what? Stfu.

8. Gassiev - CW who didn't amount to **** at CW let alone HW. One fight against a bum but let's rate him anyway.

9. Wallin - Only reason anyone's talking about him is because he got lotteried by Fury. Dude's not even the best nordic let alone a world contender. Done **** all.

10. Dubois - He's alright but there's clearly men who did more in the division.


Like I said, most of your list did nothing. Rank them based on awards that have **** all to do with where they are while telling us you know boxing. Go **** yerself, you wanted attention and I'm giving it to you. You knew your list was **** when you wrote it.

But dem Olympians doe.

But dem belts not at HW doe.

But dem did something in Ams doe.

3 of them have no ****ing excuse given but let's act like they're unbrella'd by "Half of my list are former champions and more then half were international champions along with 5 Olympic champions . Not very bright are you ? Ha"

****ing moron.

You are a special kind of slow , Wallin gave Fury his closest fight to losing . And he’s not even a top 5 guy on it .

Several guys are undefeated on it and that’s because they just might be good right ?

Boxing has been dominated by Olympic champions,for such a know it all you probably didn’t know that so I’ll list them .

Patterson, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis, Klitschko, Joshua ,Wilder ,Usyk ,Povetkin ( only losses to another gold medalist) , Holyfield ,Bowe off the top of my head. These are decades with exceptions like a Mike Tyson and Holmes with Currently Fury who I have losing to A.J just based off of statistics like this .

You can say pedigrees don’t count but real fans who really study boxing know otherwise. Ha

[Marchegiano]

You are a special kind of slow , Wallin gave Fury his closest fight to losing . And he’s not even a top 5 guy on it .

Several guys are undefeated on it and that’s because they just might be good right ?

Boxing has been dominated by Olympic champions,for such a know it all you probably didn’t know that so I’ll list them .

Patterson, Ali, Frazier, Lewis, Klitschko, Joshua ,Wilder ,Usyk ,Povetkin ( only losses to another gold medalist) , Holyfield ,Bowe off the top of my head. These are decades with exceptions like a Mike Tyson and Holmes with Currently Fury who I have losing to A.J just based off of statistics like this .

You can say pedigrees don’t count but real fans who really study boxing know otherwise. Ha

yada yada bull****.

Ranking based off your projections is not a ****ing ranking you moron. It's just a list of your projections, you moron.

12? 12 who made it? Kay.

Tyrell Biggs, Roberto Balado, Audley Harrison, Roberto Cammarelle, Samuel Berger, Albert Oldman, Ronald Rawson, Arturo Rodríguez, Otto von Porat, Ed Sanders, Peter Rademache, Odlanier Solís

That's 12 golds in one division ya dumb prick. 12 golds, all HWs, none champions, you can eat a bagga ****

[Satir]

you should clear smth up first, the ? was top 10 contenders, how is Fury or Joshua are on some lists, they are champs, top 10 contender can be ranked 20th or 50th by boxrec

[REDEEMER]

yada yada bull****.

Ranking based off your projections is not a ****ing ranking you moron. It's just a list of your projections, you moron.

12? 12 who made it? Kay.

Tyrell Biggs, Roberto Balado, Audley Harrison, Roberto Cammarelle, Samuel Berger, Albert Oldman, Ronald Rawson, Arturo Rodríguez, Otto von Porat, Ed Sanders, Peter Rademache, Odlanier Solís

That's 12 golds in one division ya dumb prick. 12 golds, all HWs, none champions, you can eat a bagga ****

How is your names negating who has dominated boxing ? Ha

My list isn’t any ranking it’s who has the best chance at winning a belt of some sort . You just don’t know what’s going on ,and are probably upset I didn’t list Ortiz who hasn’t a decent win in 5 years ,am I right ? Ha

Either way you can just keep going off about nothing ,everyone’s waiting for what comes next ,I know I am ? You even listed Cammarelle as somehow that detracts from my points , did you finally explode and your brain popped out ? Do you have one ? Ha

“Ortiz's is a world. Ergo Ortiz achieved a higher status in boxing than Pulev ever has”

Anyone reading this quote here ? Ha

[Marchegiano]

How is your names negating who has dominated boxing ? Ha

My list isn’t any ranking it’s who has the best chance at winning a belt of some sort . You just don’t know what’s going on ,and are probably upset I didn’t list Ortiz who hasn’t a decent win in 5 years ,am I right ? Ha

Either way you can just keep going off about nothing ,everyone’s waiting for what comes next ,I know I am ? You even listed Cammarelle , did you finally explode and your brain popped out ? Do you have one ? Ha

If there are more, and there are, who did not make it than there are who does then your metric is dumb, obviously.

If I have to re-explain ever god damn thing I say you to, you're a moron, obviously.

If the 08 gold medalist is ****, maybe 2016 bronze ain't worth much either...huh?

R-But Ali did, M-So did Harrison, R-I'm confused

dumbass.

[REDEEMER]

If there are more, and there are, who did not make it than there are who does then your metric is dumb, obviously.

If I have to re-explain ever god damn thing I say you to, you're a moron, obviously.

If the 08 gold medalist is ****, maybe 2016 bronze ain't worth much either...huh?

R-But Ali did, M-So did Harrison, R-I'm confused

dumbass.

You can list as many as you like but by era the champs have mostly been Olympians . You don’t need metric system to discuss that do you ? Ha

You should have just called it quits with this left field quote .

“Ortiz's is a world. Ergo Ortiz achieved a higher status in boxing than Pulev ever has”

Ortiz is a world what ?

Pulevs best win is either Chisora or Hughie Fury both better wins then Ortiz has .

This was all about not ranking Ortiz for you ,I get it now why you are on here crying. Ha