Comments Thread For: Bob Arum: Lopez Won The Fight - But Those Scores Were Ridiculous!

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  • Liondw
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    #41
    The consensus is certainly that the official scorecards were far too wide, but the right guy won.

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    • NachoMan
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      #42
      Originally posted by Kannabis Kid
      I scored the fight 8-4 Lopez but my card was 115-112 I gave Lomachenko a 10-8 round because he really put it on Teo in one of the late rounds but still that wasn't enough to win the fight. For the people saying Teofimo didn't really win Lomachenko just gave it away that's a sorry excuse he lost plain and simple because he was weary of the power that's the reason he didn't start early people just dont want to give Lopez credit for neutralizing him.

      I admit his dad is a dumbass but gotta give him credit he believed in his son and used his natural talents and molded the gameplan to beat Loma at only 23 just give credit where it's due for not being involved in boxing his father made a undisputed champion who just outboxed a 2x gold medalist that deserves some props.
      I agree with everything you said, except the 10-8 round for Loma. It was his best round of the fight maybe, but nothing close to warranting a 10-8 round. Without a KD, an opponent has to be beaten from pillar to post the entire round to warrant that kind of deduction. I wanted Loma to win too, but I thought giving him four 10-9 rounds was as fair as I could go.

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      • Nomadic
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        #43
        It really doesn't matter what the cards say. The fight had a clear winner and the judges got it right. Wide margin or narrow, in the end the judges got it right.

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          #44
          Originally posted by NachoMan
          I agree with everything you said, except the 10-8 round for Loma. It was his best round of the fight maybe, but nothing close to warranting a 10-8 round. Without a KD, an opponent has to be beaten from pillar to post the entire round to warrant that kind of deduction. I wanted Loma to win too, but I thought giving him four 10-9 rounds was as fair as I could go.
          Yeah that's ok with me I just saw Teo look real tired and was eating a lot of clean punches he missed a lot of the ones he tried to counter with in that round and kept his jab hand real low thought he was on his way out because he looked gassed but he showed championship mettle recuperated and finished strong.

          By the way I wanted Teo to win I was hoping he could get a knockout but thought Lomachenko was going to box in and out then switch up with his angles and get a clean UD didn't expect Teofimo to walk him down with a jab and get him with body shots and right hands like that.

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            #45
            Originally posted by NachoMan
            I agree with everything you said, except the 10-8 round for Loma. It was his best round of the fight maybe, but nothing close to warranting a 10-8 round. Without a KD, an opponent has to be beaten from pillar to post the entire round to warrant that kind of deduction. I wanted Loma to win too, but I thought giving him four 10-9 rounds was as fair as I could go.
            116-112, or 115-113 if you give Loma round two. Anyone scoring this fight as a blowout is either biased or knows little about scoring. Many fans get caught up in the excitement and some are drunk. If you watch the fight with no volume you will see Lopez winning 7 or 8 rounds. He definitely won though and deserves credit for backing up his words with a great effort!

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              #46
              Yep ridiculous scorecard, thankfully the right guy won but some of these judges are not competent anymore.

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                #47
                I agree with BoB

                Do a rematch in February

                We will likely see what we saw from round 6-12 .. expect a war in the rematch

                No need to wait a year, just do it right away

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Brettcappe
                  116-112, or 115-113 if you give Loma round two. Anyone scoring this fight as a blowout is either biased or knows little about scoring. Many fans get caught up in the excitement and some are drunk. If you watch the fight with no volume you will see Lopez winning 7 or 8 rounds. He definitely won though and deserves credit for backing up his words with a great effort!
                  Yeah, IMO, 116-112 was the most generous score that Loma could be given. It's frustrating because Loma definitely has the ability to win a rematch, but he probably wasted his one and only shot. When he went after him, Loma was the better fighter IMO, but he clearly was afraid of Lopez' power. Loma got too used to winning easy. He wants to win pretty, but doesn't seem to have the instinct to mix it up dirty with the tough guys. We can't call the Salido fight a fluke anymore. I'm still a fan, but I really think Loma killed his legacy with this fight because he's not going to get the chance to redeem himself and going back down to 130lbs is completely meaningless. He's going to be remembered as a great talent, but definitely not on the level of an ATG. Before this weekend, he had a chance to remembered along the likes of Pacquiao and Duran, but he's shown he's nowhere near that level. He's not tough enough.

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                  • Alan Smithee
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by NachoMan
                    Yeah, IMO, 116-112 was the most generous score that Loma could be given. It's frustrating because Loma definitely has the ability to win a rematch, but he probably wasted his one and only shot. When he went after him, Loma was the better fighter IMO, but he clearly was afraid of Lopez' power. Loma got too used to winning easy. He wants to win pretty, but doesn't seem to have the instinct to mix it up dirty with the tough guys. We can't call the Salido fight a fluke anymore. I'm still a fan, but I really think Loma killed his legacy with this fight because he's not going to get the chance to redeem himself and going back down to 130lbs is completely meaningless. He's going to be remembered as a great talent, but definitely not on the level of an ATG. Before this weekend, he had a chance to remembered along the likes of Pacquiao and Duran, but he's shown he's nowhere near that level. He's not tough enough.
                    Lopez is young, fast, hits hard, and is a true lightweight. Loma's too small for the best 135 pounders. You can't give away the first half of the fight and expect good results. I still believe that Lomachenko is a shoe in for the hall of fame. Where does he rank all time? Up for debate, as always!

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                    • NachoMan
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Brettcappe
                      Lopez is young, fast, hits hard, and is a true lightweight. Loma's too small for the best 135 pounders. You can't give away the first half of the fight and expect good results. I still believe that Lomachenko is a shoe in for the hall of fame. Where does he rank all time? Up for debate, as always!
                      Yeah, well Gatti is in the HOF so...

                      IMO, Loma's legacy depends 100% on whether he can get a rematch with Lopez. He can only redeem himself by reversing that outcome. Otherwise, he was just an elite fighter in his day.

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