How would loma cope with an elite fighter who wasn't GREEN?

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  • Boxing-1013
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    #11
    Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
    You are one of the dumbest ones for sure.
    Tell us again how you tried to chime in over in the other thread, trying to act smart. Only to be shown how ****** you are. I love it when dumb people try to act smart. It's really entertaining to see them inevitably slip up and show us all how incompetent they really are.

    Keep doing you bud!!!

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      #12
      Originally posted by Roadblock
      And he was bigger and stronger and punched a lot harder, Loma had this very same advantage when he beat Rigo.

      When are you boys' going to understand weight I guarantee you Teo was a Division bigger and thats a lot down in them low weights, and Loma just couldnt deal with the size and power deficient in such a quality fighter it shut him down to a woody wood pecker tapping on a tree, Loma felt the power and strength right of the go, fight like he did and try and steal it or get stopped.

      I wish this forum would get off the hate trips and get into all the facets of the sport, they are not wind up toys and they all have limitations concerning weight + opponent quality , how they go outside of their division takes nothing away from their best past performances.

      And for the thread, how would Loma go against an Elite that wasnt green, if it was 126-130 he probably wins, weight means so much down there when you talking real quality sharp shooters.
      It is bizarre that so many people don't realize that weight classes exist for a reason....

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      • SN!PER
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        #13
        The guy moved up 5 lbs., big deal.

        Wilder been fighting guys 50 lbs. heavier than himself for years.

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        • Roadblock
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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing-1013
          It is bizarre that so many people don't realize that weight classes exist for a reason....
          Exactly, even when its right in front of their faces they act like its not happening, as soon as they came together I said to myself Loma is out of it, if he trys to be aggressive he will get stopped, he had no other way he could fight but survival he didnt even try to score pts in the first 6 rounds because he could feel the physicality and punching power.

          That fight and the Rigo Loma fight are classic examples of a guy way too physically strong for the other guy a division bigger, add that to being a very sharp hard punching elite grade fighter and you are cooked.

          Loma gotta go back down in weight the best at 135 are too much, some guys can grow into a higher weight Loma is one that cant.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
            We saw how he coped with a washed up journeyman Orlando Salido. He got sonned. He was dropped by Linares and touched up by blown up Marriaga. Why clowns overrated and over hyped him so much still puzzles me. Those ATG's that Loma bunboys wrongfully compared him to would out box and beat him up. 135lb. Floyd would've Gatti'd him. 135lb. Pacquiao would've battered him.
            135-pound Duran would have sanctioned murdered him.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              Exactly, even when its right in front of their faces they act like its not happening, as soon as they came together I said to myself Loma is out of it, if he trys to be aggressive he will get stopped, he had no other way he could fight but survival he didnt even try to score pts in the first 6 rounds because he could feel the physicality and punching power.

              That fight and the Rigo Loma fight are classic examples of a guy way too physically strong for the other guy a division bigger, add that to being a very sharp hard punching elite grade fighter and you are cooked.

              Loma gotta go back down in weight the best at 135 are too much, some guys can grow into a higher weight Loma is one that cant.
              Yep well said. I was hoping Loma would grow into 135 but it is pretty clear that isn't the case. Not too surprising considering he was a late bloomer as a pro so he has probably been at his full grown weight now for a while.

              I wouldn't mind seeing him stay at 135 and face Haney Garcia and Tank. Or any of those fights at 130 as well. Some have said there are good fights for him at 130 too so maybe that is a good place to go to.

              I like Loma but I also don't deny reality. And when 2 men step in the ring, I have no favorite. Let the best man win. Closest I come to rooting for anyone is just hoping some guys don't get KOed and get embarrassed like that.

              But anyone who wathed Loma-Linares and Loma-Campbell, unless you were burying your head in the sand, would know that Loma was vulnerable at 135. Teo is a strong explosive dangerous puncher. Loma as you said, didn't feel comfortable at all until the 2nd half of the fight.

              Was interesting to me to see whether Loma could find enough late in the fight to stop Teo, and if once Loma figured something out, it Teo was savvy enough to put up some resistance. Loma always seems to find some answers late but it was too little too late. I enjoyed the fight all the way though. Good chess match then a race against time for Loma at the end.

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              • Roadblock
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                #17
                Originally posted by SN!PER
                The guy moved up 5 lbs., big deal.

                Wilder been fighting guys 50 lbs. heavier than himself for years.
                You comparing HWs to LWs, did you just start watching the sport. 5lbs is massive to the lighter weight guys at the highest level.

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                  #18
                  You should be banned for trolling.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Earl-Hickey
                    Let's not forget Teo was a 23 year old kid who didn't really know much when it came to the trenches and loma started fouling and butting.

                    Imagine he faced a true prime elite who would know exactly what to do and maul his midget ass right back.

                    Imo he was lucky he was facing a novice last night and avoided getting ko'd based on that fact alone.

                    Rigo is elite and he basically quit against Lomachenko.

                    Linares, Campbell, and Russell Jr are elite in my book as well. Walter's would have been heralded as elite if he won, anyone who pretends otherwise should get slapped.

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