Comments Thread For: IMHO: A New Way To Spell Sanctioning Sanity

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It's another big MMA week. Which means different things to different people. Especially we sportswriter types. Some count the time down by waxing nostalgic on past events. Some immerse in head-to-head matchups seeking evidence of one man's superiority. And others simply spend time gorging on hospitality food and drink buffets or raiding the home fridge until we're back in the building.
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[Citizen Koba]

I vote IMHO-ish!!

[tokon]

The IMHO system looks solid imho!

However Lyle then messes up with his "presuming the two top seeds advance in each weight class tourney, the inaugural list of IMHO championship bouts would look like this" list.

How would that result in, for example, canelo-kovalev or smith-jacobs? There's others.

[Ajvar]

Light Heavyweight – Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev

HUH???! Now I know it's a joke.

[xxlefthookxx]

You cannot eliminated belts..but you can eliminate the prestige. Lyle, if you and your peers would stop mentioning organizations and only mention the fighters' rankings (no 'champ', but 1-10 like in college football polls), you can change the dialogue. And make #1 be a 'what have you done for me lately' ranking. You don't stay #1 by fighting Heiland, Hogan, Centeno or Molina, Areola, Stiverne. You stay #1 by beating Rigo, Linares, Teo....GGG, Jacobs, Kovalev. This is the #1 boxing site in the US. Don't give any mention of orgs. If you are not a part of the solution you are part of the problem.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Your welterweight fight is a joke and you know it.

Errol Spence vs Manny Pacquiao would be the ONLY fight that makes any damn sense, by your OWN rules.

You'd advocate for a dirty MF'r that holds/hits and low blows, over Manny?

The hell is wrong with you?

[Topdogggbm]

Your welterweight fight is a joke and you know it.

Errol Spence vs Manny Pacquiao would be the ONLY fight that makes any damn sense, by your OWN rules.

You'd advocate for a dirty MF'r that holds/hits and low blows, over Manny?

The hell is wrong with you?

If Crawford isn't in your top 4 P4P by one measure only (the eye test), you don't watch enough boxing. I hate Crawford really. But he's the goods in every way! I guess i dont hate him. I just don't root for him in many situations. Also, Manny is so past his prime it's ridiculous. He's still relavant. And ABLE to do big things. But he's not as elite as you're making him out to be. Crawford beats up everybody they put in front of him. With no real struggle. Manny doesn't really beat anybody up like that. And Horn made him look bad. When have we seen Crawford look bad EVER?! Honestly never. That man in the goods. I just won't be rooting for him.

[Combat Talk Radio]

If Crawford isn't in your top 4 P4P by one measure only (the eye test), you don't watch enough boxing. I hate Crawford really. But he's the goods in every way! I guess i dont hate him. I just don't root for him in many situations. Also, Manny is so past his prime it's ridiculous. He's still relavant. And ABLE to do big things. But he's not as elite as you're making him out to be. Crawford beats up everybody they put in front of him. With no real struggle. Manny doesn't really beat anybody up like that. And Horn made him look bad. When have we seen Crawford look bad EVER?! Honestly never. That man in the goods. I just won't be rooting for him.

I don't rank off the 'eye test'. I thought everyone around here knew that about me.

"Who did you beat and who did that guy beat?"

That's what I rate against. By that measure, Crawford only has Jeff Horn, and that had an asterisk on it.

And I already showed how Crawford needed a low blow to deal with a guy who allegedly has a glass jaw and was legit almost killed by Carnelo two fights prior.

Meanwhile, Manny has only ever lost to Horn since losing to Floyd. 1 out of six fights, two of them title holders. And beat those five clean as a whistle, including the top guy at welterweight behind Spence.

It's not close in my book. Manny all the way.

[Topdogggbm]

I don't rank off the 'eye test'. I thought everyone around here knew that about me.

"Who did you beat and who did that guy beat?"

That's what I rate against. By that measure, Crawford only has Jeff Horn, and that had an asterisk on it.

And I already showed how Crawford needed a low blow to deal with a guy who allegedly has a glass jaw and was legit almost killed by Carnelo two fights prior.

Meanwhile, Manny has only ever lost to Horn since losing to Floyd. 1 out of six fights, two of them title holders. And beat those five clean as a whistle, including the top guy at welterweight behind Spence.

It's not close in my book. Manny all the way.

As you can see with my whopping 102 posts, I don't really know the tendencies of you guys here yet. But of course I'm not discrediting Manny. He's one of the greatest! But I just don't understand how one feels like Crawford isn't the goods. He toys with people. He's mean. He dominates everyone he's fought (yes his resume doesn't even move the needle compared to Manny. But you can only fight the guy in front of you). Plus, the main thing is.... I look forward, not backwards.

Take Spence for example..... before Porter, he had 1 valid win under his belt..... Brook. (That PAINS me to say this. Because Mikey is my favorite fighter. But he was jumping up in weight). But you seem to give Spence the credit he deserves based off the eye test. You surely can't credit him for his resume! Bundu? 20 other guys we can't name? So why Spence and not Crawford? It makes no sense. Plus, you're making the excuse for Manny... well he ONLY lost to Horn 1 of 6..... Crawford BEAT Horn. And has lost to no one! He DESTROYED Horn and bullied him! I know we can't play the game of "1 beat 2. And 2 beat 3. So 1 must be better than 3". But in this case, the difference is blatantly obvious. And again, I root for Manny. I root against Crawford. But Crawford is more than deserving. And I bet he beats Spence. If Porter gave Spence trouble, you think Crawford wouldn't?! Come on man

[Combat Talk Radio]

As you can see with my whopping 102 posts, I don't really know the tendencies of you guys here yet. But of course I'm not discrediting Manny. He's one of the greatest! But I just don't understand how one feels like Crawford isn't the goods. He toys with people. He's mean. He dominates everyone he's fought (yes his resume doesn't even move the needle compared to Manny. But you can only fight the guy in front of you). Plus, the main thing is.... I look forward, not backwards.

Take Spence for example..... before Porter, he had 1 valid win under his belt..... Brook. (That PAINS me to say this. Because Mikey is my favorite fighter. But he was jumping up in weight). But you seem to give Spence the credit he deserves based off the eye test. You surely can't credit him for his resume! Bundu? 20 other guys we can't name? So why Spence and not Crawford? It makes no sense. Plus, you're making the excuse for Manny... well he ONLY lost to Horn 1 of 6..... Crawford BEAT Horn. And has lost to no one! He DESTROYED Horn and bullied him! I know we can't play the game of "1 beat 2. And 2 beat 3. So 1 must be better than 3". But in this case, the difference is blatantly obvious. And again, I root for Manny. I root against Crawford. But Crawford is more than deserving. And I bet he beats Spence. If Porter gave Spence trouble, you think Crawford wouldn't?! Come on man

Disagree.

Crawford is a guy that needed dirty tactics to deal with Amir Khan.

Crawford is a guy that was almost taken the distance by a one legged man.

Crawford is a guy where this happened to him in his last fight

I'm sorry, but #1 P4P guys don't low blow glass jaw opponents and they damn sure don't get flush two-pieced, wobbled and dropped by unknowns.

Crawford is smoke and mirrors.

As far as Spence, he holds two of the three MAJOR titles. He went international to take the IBF back that Porter lost in the US. Crawford refused to fight Horn in Australia and to this day refuses to fight overseas.

That's why Spence is the top guy. He has challenged for major titles and took them fair and square, one of them in the guy's backyard. That's a warrior.