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  • BodyBagz
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    My Mt Rushmore of windbags -
    Roach, Warren, Atlas and Arum

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  • InvalidUserID
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    Was Tyson really injury prone or is Roach implying that Tyson would find a way out?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
    Had I been Lewis that night, I would have refused to go on with the fight. It was pitiful to see.
    He didn't know. McCall came out fine for the first few minutes. It wasn't until later that he started to break down.

    And ultimately, you're a fighter and you have to defend yourself at all times. You don't know if it's a trick or what.

    Reminds me of Mia St. John teeing off on Christy Martin when she went nuts.

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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    "At the end of the day", who's hand was raised...?
    Had I been Lewis that night, I would have refused to go on with the fight. It was pitiful to see.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
    I'd agree with your point without problems, but you can't seriously consider the McCall rematch as a genuine fight.
    "At the end of the day", who's hand was raised...?

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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by revelated View Post
    You forget, Lewis remains the only fighter in history to have successfully avenged his KO losses with knockouts and the only fighter to rematch every opponent he ever lost to.

    Time will tell on Wilder.
    Joshua danced.
    Manny ducked.
    Leonard danced.
    Duran ducked.
    Chocolatito ducked.
    Hamed retired in shame.
    Porter ducked.
    Spinks retired in shame.
    Golovkin preferred a soft touch.
    Mikey fought others for gift wins.
    Broner ducked.
    Quillin ducked.
    Jacobs would have if Pirog hadn't retired.

    On and on.

    You may not think much of that accolade but getting knocked out tends to make you question yourself. It's why guys getting praised for 'eye test' are at risk, because they've not fought true threats yet to know how they handle it.
    I'd agree with your point without problems, but you can't seriously consider the McCall rematch as a genuine fight.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
    Well, what should Lennox do? His career's highlights read as follows:

    1) Beating up the "drugged corpse" version of Tyson.
    2) Being robbed via a draw (first Holyfield fight).
    3) Being knocked out by McCall and winning the rematch against the latter's "crying addict" version, without even finding a way to knock him down in the process.
    4) Being knocked out by Rahman and winning the rematch via his lone genuine "highlight punch" of an entire career.
    5) Being given hell by Frank Bruno before finding a Hail Mary punch to bail him out.
    6) Being given hell by Mercer.
    6) Being knocked around the ring by Klitschko before opening a day-saving cut with a punch.

    Oh, right, I forgot - he destroyed Golota and Grant. But was almost knocked down by Briggs...

    Seriously: all in all, Lewis' finest moment might very well be his KO win against Razor Ruddock.
    You forget, Lewis remains the only fighter in history to have successfully avenged his KO losses with knockouts and the only fighter to rematch every opponent he ever lost to.

    Time will tell on Wilder.
    Joshua danced.
    Manny ducked.
    Leonard danced.
    Duran ducked.
    Chocolatito ducked.
    Hamed retired in shame.
    Porter ducked.
    Spinks retired in shame.
    Golovkin preferred a soft touch.
    Mikey fought others for gift wins.
    Broner ducked.
    Quillin ducked.
    Jacobs would have if Pirog hadn't retired.

    On and on.

    You may not think much of that accolade but getting knocked out tends to make you question yourself. It's why guys getting praised for 'eye test' are at risk, because they've not fought true threats yet to know how they handle it.

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  • Tatabanya
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    Originally posted by Aussiebox2019 View Post
    And clown lennox lewis reckons he fought Tyson when Tyson was in his prime..... 1984 not 2004 lennox ya fugtard, mike has has more lines of coke than lennox had hot breakfasts and long before he fought you Lennox
    Well, what should Lennox do? His career's highlights read as follows:

    1) Beating up the "drugged corpse" version of Tyson.
    2) Being robbed via a draw (first Holyfield fight).
    3) Being knocked out by McCall and winning the rematch against the latter's "crying addict" version, without even finding a way to knock him down in the process.
    4) Being knocked out by Rahman and winning the rematch via his lone genuine "highlight punch" of an entire career.
    5) Being given hell by Frank Bruno before finding a Hail Mary punch to bail him out.
    6) Being given hell by Mercer.
    7) Being knocked around the ring by Klitschko before opening a day-saving cut with a punch.

    Oh, right, I forgot - he destroyed Golota and Grant. But was almost knocked down by Briggs...

    Seriously: all in all, Lewis' finest moment might very well be his KO win against Razor Ruddock.
    Last edited by Tatabanya; 06-09-2020, 11:06 AM.

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  • thack
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    If Mike is training for exhibition fights for charity then good luck to him.Anything else would be ridiculous and dangerous.

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  • Aussiebox2019
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    And clown lennox lewis reckons he fought Tyson when Tyson was in his prime..... 1984 not 2004 lennox ya fugtard, mike has has more lines of coke than lennox had hot breakfasts and long before he fought you Lennox

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