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  • 184guy2
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    #21
    Originally posted by denium
    Fury won a clear decision. Wallin won 3 rounds at best.



    It was a nasty cut yes, but Fury won the majority of the rounds and wanted to continue, so i don't think it's a big deal.

    It's well documented that Fury over trained for the fight, his dad said it straight away as he was commenting on the fight and it's a reason why Fury changed his team and preparation straight after it.

    I don't see Whyte winning a round against Fury tbh, look at how Tyson handled Chisora, a similar fighter to Whyte who on my cards beat Dillian in the first and was beating him in the second until the ref took away 2 unfair points and forced Chisora to start looking for the KO.

    Whyte was also lucky not to get stopped against Parker, and looked like dog s*** against Wach.

    Whyte knocks out a bum in Browne and outboxes a stiff in Rivas and he's suddenly the boogeyman? GTFOH.
    I'm pretty sure that Vitali also wanted to continue but the officials thought CORRECTLY otherwise

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      #22
      Originally posted by denium
      Fury won a clear decision. Wallin won 3 rounds at best.



      It was a nasty cut yes, but Fury won the majority of the rounds and wanted to continue, so i don't think it's a big deal.

      It's well documented that Fury over trained for the fight, his dad said it straight away as he was commenting on the fight and it's a reason why Fury changed his team and preparation straight after it.

      I don't see Whyte winning a round against Fury tbh, look at how Tyson handled Chisora, a similar fighter to Whyte who on my cards beat Dillian in the first and was beating him in the second until the ref took away 2 unfair points and forced Chisora to start looking for the KO.

      Whyte was also lucky not to get stopped against Parker, and looked like dog s*** against Wach.

      Whyte knocks out a bum in Browne and outboxes a stiff in Rivas and he's suddenly the boogeyman? GTFOH.
      What's all this boogeyman stuff? Tyson ducked Rivas and you can be sure that if Tyson had rough Rivas he would have been a hugely dangerous opponent and actually would have been a good win for Tyson. If Whyte, or AJ etc. beat someone like Rivas he is a stiff or a bum yet Tyson tough Pianetta, Seferi, Schwartz and Wallin. Whyte was **** against Each and I said he should not have been in the ring because he was a fat mess. The need for Tyson fans to completely trash Whyte's record is very weird as he has faced much better opposition than any other fighter in the run up to a title shot. Just look at Wilder's opponents before his title shot and compare them to Whyte's.

      I agree that Tyson won the fight against Wallin by a few rounds but it was a far from convincing performance. You excuse Tyson because he had "over trained" but will crucify Whyte for the Wach fight when the only training he looked like he did was in McDonalds.

      The conversation is pointless. I am trying to give a balanced view and have said that the fight is much closer than people think etc and all that comes back is stuff like GTFOH. It is an opinion and it is fine that you disagree but fanboys need to learn that not everything is so black and white.

      You don't think Whyte wins a round and I think he stops Fury in the mid rounds. Let's just hope we get to see who is right.

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        #23
        Originally posted by 184guy2
        I'm pretty sure that Vitali also wanted to continue but the officials thought CORRECTLY otherwise
        Look, the fight wasn’t stopped and Fury won comfortably, so it was the right decision for the ref not to stop it because Fury was able to fight on. This is the hurt game after all.

        Anyway Wallin could arguably have been DQ'd for deliberately pawing at the cut after the ref called break.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Counterleft
          What's all this boogeyman stuff? Tyson ducked Rivas and you can be sure that if Tyson had rough Rivas he would have been a hugely dangerous opponent and actually would have been a good win for Tyson. If Whyte, or AJ etc. beat someone like Rivas he is a stiff or a bum yet Tyson tough Pianetta, Seferi, Schwartz and Wallin. Whyte was **** against Each and I said he should not have been in the ring because he was a fat mess. The need for Tyson fans to completely trash Whyte's record is very weird as he has faced much better opposition than any other fighter in the run up to a title shot. Just look at Wilder's opponents before his title shot and compare them to Whyte's.

          I agree that Tyson won the fight against Wallin by a few rounds but it was a far from convincing performance. You excuse Tyson because he had "over trained" but will crucify Whyte for the Wach fight when the only training he looked like he did was in McDonalds.

          The conversation is pointless. I am trying to give a balanced view and have said that the fight is much closer than people think etc and all that comes back is stuff like GTFOH. It is an opinion and it is fine that you disagree but fanboys need to learn that not everything is so black and white.

          You don't think Whyte wins a round and I think he stops Fury in the mid rounds. Let's just hope we get to see who is right.
          When exactly did Tyson duck Rivas? I doubt you'd ever heard of him before Eddie announced him as an opponent lol.

          What exactly makes Rivas a good win? Who's he beaten? Jennings? He was losing that fight until getting a late stoppage and Jennings was never any good to begin with.

          You Matchroom boys are all the same, any Matchroom fighter opponent automatically becomes a top 10 fighter after they lose lol.

          Wallin isn't a bum either, he's a 6ft5 southpaw with decent skills & heart, he'd beat Wach every day of the week and I'd fancy him to beat Rivas as well. Rivas is a small, basic, muscled up stiff.

          How exactly do you think Whyte can beat Tyson Fury? It's not even like he's much of a bigger puncher, Fury has a higher KO%
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            #25
            Originally posted by koolkc107
            See, look at the position you put yourself in.

            Are you actually in here comparing a washed up Wach- who had been put on his azz a few months earlier by someone with 12 fights- to a young undefeated (albeit untested) Wallin?

            Really?

            And by the way, the ONLY drama in that fight was the cut and whether it would be stopped. The fight itself? Not close.

            By contrast, Whyte struggled all through out with a Wach clearly way past his contending days. The fight before that Whyte hit the canvas vs Rivas, a guy greener than Wallin. The fight before that he has down on points to another washed up guy in DelBoy before finding a punch to stop Chisora. The fight before that, he needed a referee's help for a win he didn't deserve.

            What, out of all this, makes him a boogeyman?

            Want the truth? Try this.

            Maybe Whyte is just someone the real elite fighters don't want to waste their time with if they can get paid better fighting someone else.

            Fury (or Wilder if he is able to reverse things) have bigger fish to fry and there are several fights bigger than one with Whyte. Especially the unification with AJ. How in God's name can anyone keep a straight face saying Whyte should get a shot at Tyson before AJ does?

            Sorry, but not sorry to burst your Whyte bubble...
            What position? Disagreeing with a fanboy?

            Truth:

            Fury ducked the Wilder rematch to fight Tom Schwartz and would have been paid much more to fight Whyte.

            Fury was ordered to fight Whyte for an eliminator to fight Wilder and ducked it.

            Fury said he would fight Whyte if the WBC ordered the fight to be for the WBC Diamond belt. WBC agreed and Tyson ducked it later claiming that it was just mind games against Eddie Hearn which every sensible person knows is a lie.

            Tyson may have given his shoes to a homeless man but he certainly didn't give $7 million to homeless charities or even $7.

            Tyson was offered the Rivas fight and ducked him because he was too dangerous.

            Whyte looked fat and **** vs an old man in Wach and should never have fought in Saudi Arabia.

            People go on about the 2nd Chisora fight as if it is a bad performance but Dell was out cold for a long time in a way that has never happened to him before. If Wilder, Fury, AJ had stopped Chisora like that we would never hear the end of it.

            Browne was overrated but I would still have fancied him to beat Wilder at the stage when he fought Whyte. The KO of Browne was brutal and Browne was on the canvas for minutes. Sky were so worried that they refused to show the replay incase he was seriously hurt.

            Whyte should get a shot at Tyson because he is the WBC champ and this is how it works. Should Pulev get a shot at AJ before Tyson? Yes, because he is mandatory and that is how boxing is supposed to work.

            Whyte has been ranked number 1 since 2017. I know that doesn't mean he has been mandatory since then but it does mean he should have been.

            I don't think Whyte is the boogeyman. I think he has been ****ed over by the WBC and by Hearn.

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              #26
              Originally posted by denium
              Anyway Wallin could arguably have been DQ'd for deliberately pawing at the cut after the ref called break.
              I agree that Wallin was pawing at the cut and not just after the break and the ref could have been much tougher with him. I am glad it wasn't stopped on the cut as well.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Counterleft
                What position? Disagreeing with a fanboy?

                Truth:

                Fury ducked the Wilder rematch to fight Tom Schwartz and would have been paid much more to fight Whyte.

                Fury was ordered to fight Whyte for an eliminator to fight Wilder and ducked it.

                Fury said he would fight Whyte if the WBC ordered the fight to be for the WBC Diamond belt. WBC agreed and Tyson ducked it later claiming that it was just mind games against Eddie Hearn which every sensible person knows is a lie.

                Tyson may have given his shoes to a homeless man but he certainly didn't give $7 million to homeless charities or even $7.

                Tyson was offered the Rivas fight and ducked him because he was too dangerous.

                Whyte looked fat and **** vs an old man in Wach and should never have fought in Saudi Arabia.

                People go on about the 2nd Chisora fight as if it is a bad performance but Dell was out cold for a long time in a way that has never happened to him before. If Wilder, Fury, AJ had stopped Chisora like that we would never hear the end of it.

                Browne was overrated but I would still have fancied him to beat Wilder at the stage when he fought Whyte. The KO of Browne was brutal and Browne was on the canvas for minutes. Sky were so worried that they refused to show the replay incase he was seriously hurt.

                Whyte should get a shot at Tyson because he is the WBC champ and this is how it works. Should Pulev get a shot at AJ before Tyson? Yes, because he is mandatory and that is how boxing is supposed to work.

                Whyte has been ranked number 1 since 2017. I know that doesn't mean he has been mandatory since then but it does mean he should have been.

                I don't think Whyte is the boogeyman. I think he has been ****ed over by the WBC and by Hearn.
                Did you just say that Lucas Browne would beat Deontay Wilder in a fight?

                And you call us fanboys? lmfao.

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                  #28
                  Stop with the otto wallin shh. Yes it couldve been stopped amd wallin wouldve won. But without the cut fury was winning like vitali was against lennox lewis different refs have different threshholds me personally id like to see whytr fight ruiz usyk and luis ortiz befote stepping back in with aj wilder and fury.. Fury should fight wilder then aj 2 or 3x pending results but if fury wins theu can do whayever outside an usyk and wbc eliminqtor fight before a retirement fight vs dubois. If fury loses to aj fury should fight the whytr ruiz usyk then before a retiitement trilogy with aj or whomever lost too

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by denium
                    When exactly did Tyson duck Rivas? I doubt you'd ever heard of him before Eddie announced him as an opponent lol.

                    What exactly makes Rivas a good win? Who's he beaten? Jennings? He was losing that fight until getting a late stoppage and Jennings was never any good to begin with.

                    You Matchroom boys are all the same, any Matchroom fighter opponent automatically becomes a top 10 fighter after they lose lol.

                    Wallin isn't a bum either, he's a 6ft5 southpaw with decent skills & heart, he'd beat Wach every day of the week and I'd fancy him to beat Rivas as well. Rivas is a small, basic, muscled up stiff.

                    How exactly do you think Whyte can beat Tyson Fury? It's not even like he's much of a bigger puncher, Fury has a higher KO%
                    Fury ducked Rivas and the excuse was because he wanted to fight taller fighters.

                    Tyson Fury had the chance to take on Dillian Whyte's July 20 opponent, Oscar Rivas, before he opted to fight Tom Schwarz


                    Oh, OK so when Wilder beats Ortiz it's a fantastic win because Ortiz has such a great resume. Erm, his best win is Bryant Jennings.

                    So Rivas is a bum but Wallin is credible? Wallin's best win was against Adrian Granat but somehow he is this dangerous unbeaten prospect like Tom Schwartz was? The only thing that made them dangerous was that they were facing Tyson Fury. They may as well have been Mark de More and Arnold Gjergjaj.

                    Fury will be at a psychological deficit against Whyte as he knows that Whyte can and has hurt him many times in the past. People that say sparring doesn't matter are clueless. Tyson puts a huge amount of emphasis on an imaginary battle in the sauna against Klitschko and will know that Whyte has his number and he will not be able to intimidate him or win the psychological battle he lost years ago.

                    Whyte will pressure Fury and will hurt him with body shots and stop him in the middle rounds.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by denium
                      Did you just say that Lucas Browne would beat Deontay Wilder in a fight?

                      And you call us fanboys? lmfao.
                      Yes, I think Wilder is that poor.

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