Isn’t it amazing how GGG ducked Derevyanchenko but Canelo didn’t?

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  • bluebeam
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    #61
    Originally posted by TonyGe
    I didn't say he didn't fight on short notice. I said the circumstances were different. Lewis had been chasing a fight with Vitali and and been in active negotiations with him. The circumstances are not the same. By the way how well did Lewis do in that fight?? He damned near lost. In the first first Martinez Williams fight which you must be referencing Martinez lost. When he was properly prepped for Williams he steamrolled him. I think it's pretty obvious that taking on a challenger on short notice is risky. Golovkin wasn't going to fight a guy as good as Derevyanchenko on short notice for crap money and possibly jeopardise the Canelo fight. It would be ****** to do so. Cotto paid step aside to Golovkin so he could fight Martinez for the same reason. FFS.

    Williams took martinez on short notice.. And he won. Pavlik pulled out of the williams fight.

    Lewis took vitali on short notice.. And he won. Johnson pulled out of the lewis fight.


    GGG could have won too. Bottom line you just proved what the initial post that i was responding to was about. Which is GGG never takes risk.

    And thats why we got 2 year inactive vanes instead of derevychencko

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      #62
      Originally posted by stealthradon
      Canelo just spent 40 mil on a ****** useless boat.
      And DAZN just wasted $50,000,000 on GGG on three USELESS fights Rolls, Sergiy, Sesmeta.

      I would rather have the boat and save $10,000,000....

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        #63
        Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
        It isn’t 2015 anymore. Sergey Kovalev is 37 years old, is 4-4 in his last 8 fights and has been knocked out 3 times in that span. He was also almost stopped in the fight he had directly before the alvarez fight.

        Daniel Jacobs would be favored over Kovalev and is considered to be the better fighter at this point in their careers.
        Just no. I would favor the OTHER Alavarez to beat Jacobs at LHW. Don't tell me u would take Jacobs???

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          #64
          Originally posted by stealthradon
          Canelo just spent 40 mil on a ****** useless boat.
          You know how to do polls???

          Do a poll for me

          Would you rather spend $40,000,000 on a boat?

          Or

          Would you rather give GGG $50,0000 for three fights against Sergiy, Rolls, and Simon Sesmeta?

          I'll go 1st. I take the BOAT and pocket the $10,000,000.

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          • Shadoww702
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            #65
            NO ONE will remember the Rolls, Simon fights. And I ain't paying $50,000,000 for a VACANT Championship fight against a guy who JUST lost and went back to a title fight and NEVER won a belt. Yes, I say never

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            • AKAcronym
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              #66
              People need to be honest here, do we really think Derev and DiBella would've fought Golovkin for $225k, when he made at least double several months later against Jacobs? Golovkin only made a million when he was obviously at a much better point financially at that time in his career when he fought Vanes. There was no money in that fight and I have my doubts Derev and his team would've been happy with such a small purse considering the threat and name that Golovkin was.

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              • TonyGe
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                #67
                Originally posted by AKAcronym
                People need to be honest here, do we really think Derev and DiBella would've fought Golovkin for $225k, when he made at least double several months later against Jacobs? Golovkin only made a million when he was obviously at a much better point financially at that time in his career when he fought Vanes. There was no money in that fight and I have my doubts Derev and his team would've been happy with such a small purse considering the threat and name that Golovkin was.
                Exactly. Golovkin ended up fighting him anyway and both men made more money out of it.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #68
                  GGG vacated to fight a guy who was inactive and coming off of a loss AND GAD TO MOVE UP TO FIGHT HIM

                  Canelo chose to move up 2 divisions and fight a current champion..****** thread

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                  • TonyGe
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by bluebeam
                    Williams took martinez on short notice.. And he won. Pavlik pulled out of the williams fight.

                    Lewis took vitali on short notice.. And he won. Johnson pulled out of the lewis fight.


                    GGG could have won too. Bottom line you just proved what the initial post that i was responding to was about. Which is GGG never takes risk.

                    And thats why we got 2 year inactive vanes instead of derevychencko
                    The only thing your response indicated to me is that you didn't bother to read the post.. Those situations regarding Lewis and Martinez were very different. Derev and Golovkin fought later just as Loeffler promised. So I don't see what you are going on about unless you are pissed because you think on short notice Golovkin would lose. Both guys had a proper training camp and put on a great fight. Golovkin went into the Canelo fight in great shape and they put on a great fight. He wasn't about to risk a lose or injury and screw up the Canelo rematch and a chance to avenge his draw. Neither would Lewis or Martinez if the were inhis shoes.

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                    • ShaneMosleySr
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                      #70
                      GGG was IBF champion after he fought Martirosyan. He was stripped for fighting Canelo Alvarez instead of Sergey Derevyanchenko.

                      So GGG vacated to fight a guy who was arguably the best boxer alive. He then fought the guy he “ducked” two fights later to win back the title he vacated.

                      Originally posted by larryx...
                      GGG vacated to fight a guy who was inactive and coming off of a loss AND GAD TO MOVE UP TO FIGHT HIM

                      Canelo chose to move up 2 divisions and fight a current champion..****** thread

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