Why did GGG give up the 11th and 12th round in Canelo rematch?

[Thuglife Nelo]

daggum

Why did GGG give up those rounds doe! He let the smaller guy walk him down in the Championship rounds ala Mexican Style? Tsk tsk. Moretti was proud of Emperor Nelo.

[aboutfkntime]

actually its a hypocrisy/fanboy issue

you literally just said pushed/grazing jabs dont count as scoring criteria so just wondering how you scored that fight when that was almost exclusively what floyd did to pac while pac landed the much harder cleaner head snapping punches.

citing a max kellerman quote about how pac didnt fight up to his own preconceived notions doesnt really tell us much now does it? it tells us how max thought pac would fight but doesnt tell us what actually happened in the fight. max thought pac would be ferocious...and when he wasnt max scored the fight for floyd but thats certainly not a scoring criteria. 1. clean punches. 2 defense. 3. is pac ferocious enough?

just wondering why you changed your scoring criteria so quickly in a matter of 2 posts? or are you going to claim floyd did land the better punches? if so we can go to the video for that but ill wait for that one. please help me understand your great knowledge of boxing and how floyds lil grazing jabs were better than pacs head rocking shots. i really want to learn this! then after i learn i can just turn it back around on you and you will admit ggg beat canelo! oh wait then it goes back to the other way wow how weird is that. so once again ill give you a head start its different because...

nope, it is a knowledge issue... Mayweather definitely landed better, cleaner, harder, punches

the old... " Mayweather is feather-fisted "... thing... is total fkn nonsense... I never take anyone seriously who talks like that

Mayweather is REAL sharp, and REAL accurate... he punches way hard enough to keep any welter honest... ask Mosley, ask Canelo... ask any knowledgeable trainer

Pac was never going to walk through Mayweathers punches... dudes who were talking like that were known as... "dumb money"

Pac only landed about 80 punches in that fight

that was a easy win for Mayweather

[Boxing_1013]

at least you saw what happened

Golovkin could have been run over by a train and these ***wits would still insist he won the round lol

I'm pretty sure that guy was saying GGG won the 9th round too...he seemed to be saying that in his opinion that while GGG may have had success in the 9th round, he thought he was reckless there, and then adjusted his strategy in the next few rounds to be more cautious...that's the only way his comment makes sense really.

[Boxing_1013]

what absolute fkn bullshlt LMAO

do you still think that Hypekin is better than Duran... ? looooooool

that was a clear round for Canelo, he backed up Golovkin, outboxing him and catching him with CLEAN HARD counters... Golovkin's pushed/prodding jabs that do not land cleanly are not effective and are not official scoring criteria

like I said, landed punches were likely similar... but Canelo OBVIOUSLY landed the cleaner/harder shots, which is why he won the round according to the judges... Golovkin was fighting to survive and catch his breath, he looked tired as hell in the first half of that round

Man we just see different things...I can point to rounds in a few fights where I feel GGG was the 2nd best man in the ring.

Can you point to a round or two in his fights where you felt he had a great round? Surely he must have 1 or 2 in your opinion...everything with you seems to be 100% negative for G and 100% positive for his opponent at the time, just seems silly man.

Rate G however you want to, Idgas...but at least give fighters props for fighting a good fight...GGG fought very well down the stretch in both fights vs Canelo...sometimes the guy you don't like does good stuff in there man, it's OK, it happens.

[aboutfkntime]

Man we just see different things...I can point to rounds in a few fights where I feel GGG was the 2nd best man in the ring.

Can you point to a round or two in his fights where you felt he had a great round? Surely he must have 1 or 2 in your opinion...everything with you seems to be 100% negative for G and 100% positive for his opponent at the time, just seems silly man.

Rate G however you want to, Idgas...but at least give fighters props for fighting a good fight...GGG fought very well down the stretch in both fights vs Canelo...sometimes the guy you don't like does good stuff in there man, it's OK, it happens.

sure dude, but round 9 was not it

we do not, " see things different "... you have no idea, and you talk shlt... that is not the same thing

maybe the guy who thinks that Golovkin "has faced more quality opposition than nearly every other fighter in history"... could be over-stating the issue?

[Thuglife Nelo]

Man we just see different things...I can point to rounds in a few fights where I feel GGG was the 2nd best man in the ring.

Can you point to a round or two in his fights where you felt he had a great round? Surely he must have 1 or 2 in your opinion...everything with you seems to be 100% negative for G and 100% positive for his opponent at the time, just seems silly man.

Rate G however you want to, Idgas...but at least give fighters props for fighting a good fight...GGG fought very well down the stretch in both fights vs Canelo...sometimes the guy you don't like does good stuff in there man, it's OK, it happens.

There you go. See if GGG diehards came off more objectively there wouldn’t be a need for guys like a aboutfkntime or myself and plenty others retaliating the hate for Canelo propaganda for years. Consider it all parody. The real problem is when we site GGG faults the facts are a bit too real to acknowledge. You can’t blame Canelo fans for that. It comes with the territory. Like I said, “the quintessential problem with GGG diehards....” is that it revolves around Canelo. That’s tacky imo.

If I were a true GGG purist I’d be upset that Gennadiy didn’t dare at 168 way back in 2011. How many legends or current fighters move up in weight if they feel a division is stale? Look at Mikey starving for better fights at his most challenging class 147. He has made numerous headlines to want to fight the best. It doesn’t matter if he didn’t perform well against Spence, he sacrificed his confidence and took an L, and still wants to do it. GGG never had any hunger to do the same. In my honesty opinion, I think GGG is really soft in character. He showed that storming out the ring in the rematch.

[Truth Bringer]

The Fcvk? Rounds 10, 11, and 12 were actually the only rounds that GGG clearly won in that fight.

[Boxing_1013]

sure dude, but round 9 was not it

we do not, " see things different "... you have no idea, and you talk shlt... that is not the same thing

maybe the guy who thinks that Golovkin "has faced more quality opposition than nearly every other fighter in history"... could be over-stating the issue?

Yeah I think GGG has about 20 'real' fights in his career...that is about the same as most 'great' modern fighters...hard to really analyze the older generations in that regard though.

Round 9 wasn't G's clearest round ever...but it was clear enough...just another example of the 'does Canelo do anything at all in this round' scoring system in play for some.

[Boxing_1013]

There you go. See if GGG diehards came off more objectively there wouldn’t be a need for guys like a aboutfkntime or myself and plenty others retaliating the hate for Canelo propaganda for years. Consider it all parody. The real problem is when we site GGG faults the facts are a bit too real to acknowledge. You can’t blame Canelo fans for that. It comes with the territory. Like I said, “the quintessential problem with GGG diehards....” is that it revolves around Canelo. That’s tacky imo.

If I were a true GGG purist I’d be upset that Gennadiy didn’t dare at 168 way back in 2011. How many legends or current fighters move up in weight if they feel a division is stale? Look at Mikey starving for better fights at his most challenging class 147. He has made numerous headlines to want to fight the best. It doesn’t matter if he didn’t perform well against Spence, he sacrificed his confidence and took an L, and still wants to do it. GGG never had any hunger to do the same. In my honesty opinion, I think GGG is really soft in character. He showed that storming out the ring in the rematch.

Hey people can have their own opinions on what G was or wasn't as a fighter...I don't really see the angle that Canelo got 6+ rounds in either fight, and that Jacobs got 7+ rounds in their fight...Derevy fight admittedly was close and G was fortunate to get the KD and big cut in the first 2 rounds.

But if people want to get on G about other things, that's fine, I don't really care....I think some of those things you mentioned would have a pretty easy rebuttal, but the truth is I just don't really care enough to bother getting into the details of any of that.

[aboutfkntime]

Yeah I think GGG has about 20 'real' fights in his career...that is about the same as most 'great' modern fighters...hard to really analyze the older generations in that regard though.

Round 9 wasn't G's clearest round ever...but it was clear enough...just another example of the 'does Canelo do anything at all in this round' scoring system in play for some.

you are a total fkn idiot kid... Golovkin has faced nowhere near "more quality opponents than nearly every other fighter in boxing history"... just recent guys like Hoya, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Canelo, shlt all over Golovkin's weak competition... and guys back in the day had 200+ fights

you are a total fkn idiot man, that was a nonsensical thing to say

Canelo clearly won round 9