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  • Originally posted by DreamFighter View Post
    yeh you just made your self silly by talking about holyfield in his 40s.

    why would you ruin your argument further when it was already losing? let me know.
    You know, the career is not just prime years.

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    • Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
      So then you agree that there is no excuse for Wlad not properly avenging his losses?
      Of course. Do you think i'm a Wlad fan?

      I've criticized that guy more than anyone else on this site ever.

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      • Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Post
        Lol except you've conveniently ignored the fact that they fight nothing like Klitschko.

        Did you see the bombs that Ruddock, Smith and Douglas ate? Do I really need to show you highlights package? Meanwhile Klitschko gets tapped and starts rolling around. He was basically winning every fight that he lost except for the Fury and Sanders fight till he got tapped on the chin and started breakdancing.

        Klitschko at his best would get KO'd by Mike for the mid 90's. He might be winning on the cards but Mike would soon get to him.
        Klitschko's defense was in another stratosphere to those guys, and so was his offense for that matter. Totally different level of fighter.

        I think Klitschko at his best would beat Tyson in the mid 90s. Klitschko in his 40s ate punches from AJ and still got up. He showed a lot of heart against another big puncher in Peter.

        He overcame those early defeats.

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        • Tyson's never been undisputed so Bowe of course. Bowe's a higher order champion. Bowe is to Tyson what Tyson is to Whyte, next level up.

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          • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            Klitschko's defense was in another stratosphere to those guys, and so was his offense for that matter. Totally different level of fighter.

            I think Klitschko at his best would beat Tyson in the mid 90s. Klitschko in his 40s ate punches from AJ and still got up. He showed a lot of heart against another big puncher in Peter.

            He overcame those early defeats.
            Oh really? Just where was all this brilliant defence and offence of his in the early 2000's? I didn't see it cause he was busy breakdancing rather then boxing.

            Just who did Klitschko ever beat that could come close to Mike from the mid-90's?

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            • I can play that game also. If Douglas stopped 24 old Tyson, than Klitschko could have also stopped 30 old Tyson.

              You pretend like Mike was unbeatable?

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              • Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View Post
                You know, the career is not just prime years.
                cos roy jones getting lamped out by eternally crap Enzo Mac is worth considering when weighing him up Jones an ATG sure.

                jeez louise

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                • Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Post
                  Oh really? Just where was all this brilliant defence and offence of his in the early 2000's? I didn't see it cause he was busy breakdancing rather then boxing.

                  Just who did Klitschko ever beat that could come close to Mike from the mid-90's?
                  Who did Mike tyson beat in his whole career that would come close to Wladimir Klitschko?

                  I'm a fan of Tyson, but he was destroyed by guys lesser than klitschko like douglas.

                  There's zero proof that Tyson could beat klitschko in the mid 90s, and is there even proof he could beat him at any stage?

                  Not so sure about that.

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                  • Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                    Who did Mike tyson beat in his whole career that would come close to Wladimir Klitschko?

                    I'm a fan of Tyson, but he was destroyed by guys lesser than klitschko like douglas.

                    There's zero proof that Tyson could beat klitschko in the mid 90s, and is there even proof he could beat him at any stage?

                    Not so sure about that.
                    Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno, Larry Holmes, Tyrell Biggs, Donovan Ruddock?

                    I'd rather lose a hard fought match against Buster Douglas then get blown out by Sanders or KO'd by Brewster or Purity.

                    You're right, you can never prove that someone would beat someone at a certain point without them having actually fought.

                    You can only really look at their list of achievements and as it's stands, Klitschko held the undisputed titles for a whopping zero times whilst never even winning the lineal title from the previous guy.

                    His time to come out was in the 2000's when the greats of the era before were fighting, at that point in time he couldn't even compete, even his own brother was telling him to retire

                    Looking back over the decades, Muhammad Ali beat the great of the previous era in Sonny Liston, he was then defeated at the end of his career by Larry Holmes who was the great of his time. He was defeated by Mike Tyson who went on to lose to Lewis. Who did Klitschko beat again?

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                    • Originally posted by kiDynamite92 View Post
                      Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno, Larry Holmes, Tyrell Biggs, Donovan Ruddock?

                      I'd rather lose a hard fought match against Buster Douglas then get blown out by Sanders or KO'd by Brewster or Purity.

                      You're right, you can never prove that someone would beat someone at a certain point without them having actually fought.

                      You can only really look at their list of achievements and as it's stands, Klitschko held the undisputed titles for a whopping zero times whilst never even winning the lineal title from the previous guy.

                      His time to come out was in the 2000's when the greats of the era before were fighting, at that point in time he couldn't even compete, even his own brother was telling him to retire

                      Looking back over the decades, Muhammad Ali beat the great of the previous era in Sonny Liston, he was then defeated at the end of his career by Larry Holmes who was the great of his time. He was defeated by Mike Tyson who went on to lose to Lewis. Who did Klitschko beat again?
                      None of those guys are anything special, got beaten by average fighters and generally not championship level. Not counting holmes.

                      It's actually exposing mike's resume that those are the guys you mention as proof he could beat a prime klitschko

                      Mentioning purrity etc has nothing to do with Klitschko at his best.

                      No, Holmes' era was not ended by Mike, it was ended by Spinks. Who then took years out of the ring, only took the fight for money when he was basically retired and admitted he was scared before the fight.

                      Klitschko beat strong fighters and skilled fighters like Samuel Peter, Chris Byrd, Brewster, Povetkin, Chagaev, David Haye.

                      All 6ft to 6ft3.

                      Your arguments are getting weaker and weaker tbh.

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