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  • aboutfkntime
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    Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post
    Fury has not defended any titles ,Joshua has several title defenses it’s easier not to lose with who Fury has fought . Defending multiple times is more taxing on the body ,if it were easy most fighters would have more then 5 title defenses .



    nope

    when you get bashed by a short fat nobody, you start from scratch... AJ won his titles off Andy Ruiz, and is about to make his first defence against Pulev

    Fury fought Wilder, when Joshua would not... we still don't know if Joshua could beat Wilder, AJ is not Tyson Fury... AJ has never beaten anyone who is as good as Fury or Wilder

    AJ needs to legitimize his shaky heavyweight title reign

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  • Stuart Chandler
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    Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
    this kind of talk is just casual-fan foolishness

    FACT: there have been 3 other legitimate champions during Fury's career

    FACT: he already beat 2 of them... and will be favored over the 3rd

    FACT: AJ only fought 1 of them, the worst one... going life-n-death with him in the process... and the only reason why AJ took that fight is because Fury has already beaten the guy and there were serious questions about whether he was shot

    AJ desperately needs to beat Fury, to legitimize his reign... especially after being dropped 4x by Andy Ruiz... there are far more questions over AJ than Fury... we know what Fury can do

    if AJ does not take that fight... blurting out the same bullshlt/excuses that they used to avoid Wilder... fans will ALWAYS say that he ducked both of those fights... simply because he will be the common-denominator

    those other guys made big fights, and they fought each other... but AJ did not

    he will forever be known as Golovkin 2.0

    we know that Fury will take the fight

    whats good about this, is that Fury is LOUD and articulate

    he will tell the world who ducked who if AJ does not come to the table
    Fury has not defended any titles ,Joshua has several title defenses it’s easier not to lose with who Fury has fought . Defending multiple times is more taxing on the body ,if it were easy most fighters would have more then 5 title defenses .

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  • Tyistall
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    Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
    Truth is that Fury when returning to boxing wasn't in shape to fight AJ so he took the easier and wiser route and fought Wilder. Now he is in shape to fight and beat AJ but the Wilder rematch clauses have to be honored first. Hopefully the AJ fight is his next fight after the Wilder trilogy. Fury is not afraid of AJ at all. Fury fights AJ and they make a fabulous amount of money and then Fury probably retires as the undisputed HW champion.
    None of that is guaranteed, especially when it comes to Fury, who can change his mind at the drop of a hat. He has never defended a belt and I think that had as much to do with the steroids as anything else. But the point is, these guys have to fight to prove who is the best and AJ seems to be the only one wanted to make the fights happen. I have the feeling that after Wilder, Fury will take another tune up or a Chisora fight, especially if Chisora beats Usyk. Then the entire thing gets pushed back even further because Whyte and his mandatory is dues after that.

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  • aboutfkntime
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    Originally posted by Stuart Chandler View Post
    Furys the best until proven otherwise but there's better fighters for Fury than Wilder who I felt after the first fight he was custom made to defeat . Joshua is that guy Fury has to win over ,he's the other champion.

    Originally posted by Oshio View Post
    Fury cannot be an ATG by fighting only two top 10 heavies in his era. He's got to clean the division by beating at least 6 of the top 6. Worse, he hasn't defended any title in his entire career so the talk of ATG cannot hold water



    this kind of talk is just casual-fan foolishness

    FACT: there have been 3 other legitimate champions during Fury's career

    FACT: he already beat 2 of them... and will be favored over the 3rd

    FACT: AJ only fought 1 of them, the worst one... going life-n-death with him in the process... and the only reason why AJ took that fight is because Fury has already beaten the guy and there were serious questions about whether he was shot

    AJ desperately needs to beat Fury, to legitimize his reign... especially after being dropped 4x by Andy Ruiz... there are far more questions over AJ than Fury... we know what Fury can do

    if AJ does not take that fight... blurting out the same bullshlt/excuses that they used to avoid Wilder... fans will ALWAYS say that he ducked both of those fights... simply because he will be the common-denominator

    those other guys made big fights, and they fought each other... but AJ did not

    he will forever be known as Golovkin 2.0

    we know that Fury will take the fight

    whats good about this, is that Fury is LOUD and articulate

    he will tell the world who ducked who if AJ does not come to the table

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  • Oshio
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    Fury cannot be an ATG by fighting only two top 10 heavies in his era. He's got to clean the division by beating at least 6 of the top 6. Worse, he hasn't defended any title in his entire career so the talk of ATG cannot hold water

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  • Stuart Chandler
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    Furys the best until proven otherwise but there's better fighters for Fury than Wilder who I felt after the first fight he was custom made to defeat . Joshua is that guy Fury has to win over ,he's the other champion.

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  • The plunger man
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    Originally posted by denium View Post
    And you sound like a fgt. You're the one going on about Joshua being the "unified champion" I'm just telling you how it actually is.



    Fury went to America and fought the most feared man in boxing despite knowing he wasn't anywhere fit, why the *** would he duck a man who got dominated and KOd by a morbidly obese unranked nobody 8 months ago?

    Fury was weight drained against Wallin who is actually a very decent HW, rest assured, now he's fit and at his ideal weight, he'll smash AJ's glass jaw all over the ring.
    H with
    That's if Joshua actually gets in the ring with Fury and doesn't suffer another "panic attack"

    You carry on talking about a completely out of context sparring session if it makes you feel any better, but deep down you know what's going to happen.
    tell fury to sign the god damn contract and prove it , he’s beating a donkey in wilder fact.
    Even John McDermott beat fury and that shows the level he always has been at.
    Life and death with chisora who was koed by Haye and easily beaten by pulev.
    Fury is doing a khan by running away from fury while in the same breath biggun himself up.
    Tell ***** to sign the contract and face Joshua and prove he’s better.
    I’ll give fury all the credit in the world if he signs to face AJ but I have feeling he will fake an R.P Mcmurphy again and go cold turkey

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  • NachoMan
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    Originally posted by texasboi15 View Post
    I believe he's ATG already.

    Just off the eye test alone without resume consideration

    Big tall awkward and versatile. Very talented. High boxing IQ. And now with a little bit of power!

    He'd be a problem for ANY all-time great.
    I entirely agree with your impression that he'd be a tough outing for any HW in history, but the whole eye test thing is easily dismissed. Back in the early 2000's I seriously thought an undefeated Dominick Guinn (24-0) was going to be the future of the HW division, based, of course, on the good ol' eye test. Then he proceeds to finish his career 38-13-1. Resume, competition faced and competition defeated, actually do matter when talking about ATGs.

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  • deathofaclown
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    Originally posted by Slimpack View Post
    Fury knew what was coming and quickly 'retired' himself prematurely by taking *******. He would have been eaten raw by Wlad in the rematch. Every big fighter often have one bad fight. Wlad had one bad night but Fury never gave him the chance to regain his belts and titles. Your man is a con artist!
    Fury beats any version of Wlad. That’s why Wlad avoided him for 2 years. Fury kept having to fight final eliminators and still got avoided until Wlad couldn’t anymore. Steward even told Wlad before he died that Fury would be the one to beat him and that haunted Wlad, which is why he avoided him until he was forced to fight or be stripped.

    He’s absolutely the worst style for Wlad.

    No version of Wlad beats a focused Tyson Fury.

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  • Slimpack
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    Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
    What do you expect him to say when going to fight AJ?

    “I’m not as young as i was, a bit more faded, inactive”

    Every old fighter say they’re in the best shape in years before they fight. Don’t be so naive.

    Also, Wlad never liked Fury, so he will never give him the real credit.
    I will also hate a boxer that stole my belts without given me the opportunity to regain them. That isn't fair!

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