The amount of posters on here saying Wilder is a bum

[Victorenko]

Wilder is definitely now being underrated. You don't have to be as good as the #1 to be considered one of the best. Say what you want about a guy like Ortiz but he is definitely in the 4th-10th best bracket and Wilder KO'd him twice.

Hell, I don't even care if Wilder gets demolished by Fury again and AJ later, there are still some fights that I would love to see him in. Unfortunately Wilder + the more cult-like extremist part of his fan base made things quite toxic among various fan-circles and now that he got smashed up, people will jump all over it.

Wilder is one of the best who got beat by the very best. It happens.

What makes you think Ortiz is in the 4th-10th bracket? His rise to fame is facing Wilder, whose rise to fame is facing Ortiz.

I agree with his equally deluded fan base. They, like Wilder's delusional self-image projecting statements are part of the excessive backlash, as much is the ridiculous overhype of someone that has been protected as much as Wilder.

Wilder got beat by someone who had been away from boxing for 2½ years, and went life and death with Wallin. Wilder has also been outboxed by pretty much anyone he has faced from Szpilka to Ortiz to Fury. Now he got dominated.

If Wilder proceeds to lose to Usyk, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Klitschko, Povetkin, Joshua, and so on and so forth, how would you assess it all? That's right a boxer with a padded record that couldn't cut it with the top boxers.

[Boxing_1013]

What makes you think Ortiz is in the 4th-10th bracket? His rise to fame is facing Wilder, whose rise to fame is facing Ortiz.

I agree with his equally deluded fan base. They, like Wilder's delusional self-image projecting statements are part of the excessive backlash, as much is the ridiculous overhype of someone that has been protected as much as Wilder.

Wilder got beat by someone who had been away from boxing for 2½ years, and went life and death with Wallin. Wilder has also been outboxed by pretty much anyone he has faced from Szpilka to Ortiz to Fury. Now he got dominated.

If Wilder proceeds to lose to Usyk, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, Klitschko, Povetkin, Joshua, and so on and so forth, how would you assess it all? That's right a boxer with a padded record that couldn't cut it with the top boxers.

What would your top 10 at HW look like?

[15 Rounds again]

Man you are wacky...for a dude talking about media narratives a few posts back...you certainly sound like a dude who verbatim regurgitates bad fan-fiction from the left.

Also...a majority of people in the US are 'pro-gun' and at least somewhat skeptical of climate science...and for good reason...guns are a necessary 'evil' as far as self-defense goes, and climate alarmists like to skew the science behind 'climate change'...the facts show that there is a very minimal impact that humans have on temperature/the environment...and a lot of people aren't falling for the alarmism and money-redistribution scheme.

Also lol on calling Trump lazy...say what you want about the dude but he works his as.s off...hardly even sleeps...look at how badly he outworked Clinton in 2016...it in part helped him to win the election, his work ethic.

But anyway yeah man you sound like a nut...stick to UK politics and supporting UK fighters...your analysis of fighters and politics appears heavily influenced by some sort of UK propaganda over there, and as a result your analysis is irrelevant, and you are reduced merely to a fan, both politically and with sports.

Have fun rooting on your guys buddy!

You're so ignorant, you are an embarrassment. Why are all the other world leaders laughing at your illiterate clown? Are they all ******? And what bits of what I said are not true?
Denying climate change = you might as well believe in a flat earth ffs.

I'm out pal, I've realized I am arguing with a fool, and it's harder to win an argument with a fool than an intelligent person.

I'm trying to help you here - your ********** party is bending over your blue collar population and giving it to them- and you're voting for them.
Go pay your hospital bill pal, you deserve what you vote for.

[Victorenko]

What would your top 10 at HW look like?

Too many unanswered questions to make a top 10 that holds any true meaning. But some boxers have a more valid resume to build a ranking, such as Fury, Klitschko, Whyte, and Joshua. Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers.

[BKM-]

Well it is pretty funny to imagine a Deontay Wilder with average punching power. How well do you think he would have done in his era? Be honest.

[Boxing_1013]

You're so ignorant, you are an embarrassment. Why are all the other world leaders laughing at your illiterate clown? Are they all ******? And what bits of what I said are not true?
Denying climate change = you might as well believe in a flat earth ffs.

I'm out pal, I've realized I am arguing with a fool, and it's harder to win an argument with a fool than an intelligent person.

I'm trying to help you here - your ********** party is bending over your blue collar population and giving it to them- and you're voting for them.
Go pay your hospital bill pal, you deserve what you vote for.

Trump won because he appealed to blue collar voters in key states...just fall back man, you have 0 clue what you're talking about.

Yes our healthcare system is off here, but yours is worse...when the government gets involved, you get a worse product at a higher cost...your 'cost' is disguised with your obscenely high tax rate.

Fortunately our gov't involvement is less than yours, currently, as far as healthcare goes.

Too many unanswered questions to make a top 10 that holds any true meaning. But some boxers have a more valid resume to build a ranking, such as Fury, Klitschko, Whyte, and Joshua. Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers.

Who was Whyte beat though...and Wlad is retired man...Ruiz has the win over AJ and nothing else...Usyk hasn't even fought at HW and we don't know how he will do

[Victorenko]

Who was Whyte beat though...and Wlad is retired man...Ruiz has the win over AJ and nothing else...Usyk hasn't even fought at HW and we don't know how he will do

Joseph Parker for one. I said Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers. Usyk has a match at HW, though. Beating Joshua is also a pretty big win, I'd say. Klitschko is retired when he will not return for certain.

I get the sense you are trying to derail with a pointless debate. Tell me what you really want to say about my first post.

[SN!PER]

BoxingScene logic:

1. Fury beat Wilder.

2. Every heavyweight in history can do what Fury just did.

[Blond Beast]

I like both guys.


I actually picked Wilder to win by KO.



Still though, the costume excuse cracks me up

My brothers friend saw Max Kellerman in a pharmacy in vegas. He asked who to bet on, Kellerman said Wilder. He texted my brother who told him Kellerman is a chump and to bet on Fury by KO. Won over $500. Not huge bucks but it’s a good story. Anything a fighter says right post fight I know to take with a grain of salt. Still rattling of excuses while saying “no excuses” is pretty corny. Sadly excuses always seem to be worth more than the truth in boxing. If u blame ur ring walk gear then it just proves ur and ur whole team is mentality deficient compared to Furys team because he was carried into the ring. It’s all bull***** of course. But if we pretend it was a factor then all the more reason he deserved to lose. No one made him do it. He had to wear a corny outfit. Any football player knows this is a joke.

[Boxing_1013]

Joseph Parker for one. I said Ruiz and Usyk are definitely good boxers. Usyk has a match at HW, though. Beating Joshua is also a pretty big win, I'd say. Klitschko is retired when he will not return for certain.

I get the sense you are trying to derail with a pointless debate. Tell me what you really want to say about my first post.

Well you said Ortiz was not 4th-10th in your opinion, and then wouldn't list a top 10 dude...so it seems like an odd comment.

Yes Whyte has a 12 round UD over Parker in the UK...Wilder's two KOs over Ortiz are objectively more impressive to me than that win for Whyte over Parker.

I don't see why people are saying Parker/Whyte and even Ruiz are so clearly above someone like Ortiz, let alone Wilder.

My brothers friend saw Max Kellerman in a pharmacy in vegas. He asked who to bet on, Kellerman said Wilder. He texted my brother who told him Kellerman is a chump and to bet on Fury by KO. Won over $500. Not huge bucks but it’s a good story. Anything a fighter says right post fight I know to take with a grain of salt. Still rattling of excuses while saying “no excuses” is pretty corny. Sadly excuses always seem to be worth more than the truth in boxing. If u blame ur ring walk gear then it just proves ur and ur whole team is mentality deficient compared to Furys team because he was carried into the ring. It’s all bull***** of course. But if we pretend it was a factor then all the more reason he deserved to lose. No one made him do it. He had to wear a corny outfit. Any football player knows this is a joke.

Good post...and to be clear, I find Wilder's excuses absolutely hilarious really...I love them actually...but on that same note, I'm not mad at him for making them and I don't hate him for them.

He is trying to work his way through the loss mentally, and he is also a bit of a character so he is saying some crazy stuff lol..idk I enjoy it.