Can Fury Get The Knockout? Let's Look At The History Of Rematches Ending in KO...

[Mighty_Windir]

I think so, but let's go back a bit...

Williams vs Quintana I:



Sure, Williams looked a bit sluggish and was having a hard time landing. Quintana hit him with everything, no surprise he won the fight.

Then the rematch happened...

Williams vs Quintana II:



I didn't see Williams hurting Quintana in the first fight but here, poor guy couldn't even make it past the first round.

Also, another pair starring Mr. Punisher himself, was the Sergio bouts.

Sergio vs Williams I:



An all out brawl, they hit each with everything they got, but no knockout.

What happens in the rematch?

Sergio vs Williams II:



Williams got clocked hard, couldn't get up.

How about Andrade vs Bute?

Andrade vs Bute I:



Controversial last round, could have argued that Librado deserved the W but well....you know how things are.

What happened in the rematch?

Andrade vs Bute II:



I didn't think this was going to happen, but hey that's boxing.

Another reason why I think we may see a surprise this Saturday.

What say you?

[SinderellaMan]

Took the words out of my mouth.
The rematch often favors the puncher.

[billeau2]

Guys...

You need a real sample. Two of the three examples feature the same fighter! Looking carefully at fights you would discover the following: As an overall trend, all things being equal, the boxer wins more than the puncher is professional prize fighting. Is there a distinct trend regarding rematches? Hard to say...

[EL GANCHO]

Took the words out of my mouth.
The rematch often favors the puncher.

Na its 50/50 canelo vs golovkin 2
Mayweather vs maidana 2...i think it just goes down to who wanted more

[REDEEMER]

Guys...

You need a real sample. Two of the three examples feature the same fighter! Looking carefully at fights you would discover the following: As an overall trend, all things being equal, the boxer wins more than the puncher is professional prize fighting. Is there a distinct trend regarding rematches? Hard to say...

You actually wouldn’t need one ,Fury has knocked out his opponents in rematches and that’s what we would compare .there wouldn’t be any necessary outside examples needed .

[keith_head]

I have Wilder a slight favourite but Fury can certainly get the KO. People act like he's feather fisted but I don't think so. There were times in that first match where Wilder certainly felt the power.

This is heavyweight boxing at the top of the division. Anyone can KO anyone at this level. Nothing would surprise me.

[SinderellaMan]

Na its 50/50 canelo vs golovkin 2
Mayweather vs maidana 2...i think it just goes down to who wanted more

That is a great point.

[boliodogs]

Sure he could get the KO in any round including round two. But he could easily get knocked out while trying to KO the KO specialist.

[Mighty_Windir]

Guys...You need a real sample.

How is this not a real "sample"?

Please, follow up on this one.

I could have swore those fights took place a couple of years back

Two of the three examples feature the same fighter!

So?

The outcome wasn't the same for him.

It just shows you that because a certain result happened at one time, it does not mean you will get the same with another fighter...despite that one boxer's attributes.

Looking carefully at fights you would discover the following: As an overall trend, all things being equal, the boxer wins more than the puncher is professional prize fighting.

Yea...that's not always the case

[billeau2]

How is this not a real "sample"?

Please, follow up on this one.

I could have swore those fights took place a couple of years back



So?

The outcome wasn't the same for him.

It just shows you that because a certain result happened at one time, it does not mean you will get the same with another fighter...despite that one boxer's attributes.



Yea...that's not always the case

If you are trying to prove there is a tendency for left handed individuals to grab a red ball faster than right handed individuals, and you use a sample of 10 individuals, 5 righies and 5 lefties you would not use 4 lefties and have one individual get two cracks at the red ball.

When drawing a conclusion about a puncher versus a boxer, using the same individual twice amounts to the same problem. In either case the result might reflect the tendencies of the individual involved and not serve as an example, sample for the process noted.

If you are showing that outcomes can change...well thats common understanding, I mean nobody believes a puncher, or a boxer wins in any scenario (rematch, etc) every time. Thing is, when you confine this example to one person it really is about that individual, more than a general statement.

The best way to describe what your statement amounts to is: I would call it a tautology.

And I never claimed anything is always the case. I said that the trend is such that when we look at many many fights, generally speaking the boxer has an advantage over the puncher. I even question whether this changes in any meaningful way during a rematch.