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  • daggum
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    is the bum style one that canelo struggles with?

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  • Squ□redCircle34
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    Originally posted by marvin douglas View Post
    No way. Charlo ran ginger out of the mw division. And Ginger never offered Charlo a contract. That's a bunch of bull. Instead of getting a tile, the wbc made Charlo champ, but ginger was super champ and doesn't have to defend against number one contender.
    If it was a lie then how come Jermall Charlo hasn’t countered online or made a counter offer?

    That same ginger is on his way to being a 4 division champ by beating a undefeated champion in their PRIME then they’ll be another list of excuses when Canelo wins!

    Just face the facts or just continue spreading lies and emotional driven opinions, Canelo has the best resume in boxing besides Pacquiao!

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  • YoungManRumble
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    Is autism contagious?

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  • F l i c k e r
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    He's right with that one at least.

    Callum's tall, has pop, but more importantly is that he fights like a tall fighter. He keeps everything on the end of his reach (78"). He generates a lot of pop from it as well.

    I won't lie though. Callum gets uncomfortable in some spots. I think Canelo can damage him with that too.

    He'll have to walk Callum down to do that. Get in there and make Callum keep his long arms, in tight. That thin frame won't carry a lot of damage either, if Canelo decides to walk in and bang the belly.

    Would be a solid fight at the very least. Callum, Saunders, and Plant. If Canelo doesn't fight one of those guys at least, something's fishy.

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  • Citizen Koba
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    Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
    One of the sources you used literally states:

    “The protocol was changed a bit,” Bennett said. “There was numerous communication in an effort to make sure the right officials were officiating this fight and that we got it right.”

    And the change happened at the request of Borat, Abel, and Tom.

    In that SAME ARTICLE it says GBP agreed to EVERYTHING.

    Borat picked the judges (by eliminating judges he didnt like), picked the referee (literally objected to Referee Byrd), Borat picked Canelos gloves after protesting "they could break" during the fight, whined about venues, whined about PPV split, whined about lockerroom noise (cant make this up), and - best for last - whined about Canelos beard.

    Is this a JOKE?

    Someone like you is too retarded and Republican to know really anything. Your own source literally conflicts with that long ass white supremacist rant. Its insane.

    Anyhow thank God the fat red headed kid lit that boy up like a Christmas tree





    Yes, I actually acknowledged that in my edit - which is why I wrote EDIT next to it to draw your attention. Also that I hadn't seen the article before or the details in it. In fact posting that was not some accident or mistake but me making the point that I was receptive to new information and willing to accept when I had been mistaken or my knowledge was incomplete. I guess the idea of intellectual honesty is kinda alien to you though so perhaps it's not surprising my gesture wholly passed you by. However there still isn't anything about Golovkin choosing the officials - or at least no more than Canelo did - so your claim is still wrong.

    The change may have happened at the request of Golovkin but it was done under the juridiction of NAC in such a way that neither team was disadvantaged by it. In fact the only difference was that the fighters got to pick the inital pool rather than Bennett and given the relatively small number of top level judges used by Vegas, it's actually debateable if it made any difference at all. So I really ain't seeing your complaint. Are you claiming that Canelo was treated unfairly or something?

    As to the rest of your melodramtic guff you're just making yourself look more and more the fanboy with every word. Do your waste hours of your time complaining about other fighters who object to gloves? Who try to make the best deal under the most advantageous circumstances? Cos that's what every fighter does, or should be doing.

    And really why the fuck should I care if GGG wants a quieter room or if Sanchez is concerned that Canelos beard could cause abrasions in the clinch or whatever? I wouldn't think any worse of any other fighter who made such requests - in fact I wouldn't give the slightest shit at all and I suspect you wouldn't either if it was a different fighter - so why would I give a **** if Golovkin does? That kinda shits just laughable. As are your efforts to prick my ego about a fighter who I care about no more than I do about dozens of others.

    In your head this is some kinda battle of the fanboys I guess, whereas to me all I was doing was correcting you on some points of detail same way as I woulda done if you'd got some random fight date or rules detail wrong.

    So back to the beginning.

    Golovkin did not choose the judges. NAC did.

    Golovkin did not choose the gloves.


    What else did you want to discuss again?


    Oh yeah, and just for your info I ain't even American, wouldn't be anywhere on the accepted US political spectrum if I was and in fact probably have at least as much sympathy with Mexico and Mexicans as I do with the US. Simple fact is you don't even understand where I'm coming from and are getting yourself all worked up over nothing. I ain't even got any problem with Canelo or any other fighter for that matter (in fact I'm largely disinterested in him) but since you felt the need to start calling fighters infantile names and making innaccurate and frankly juvenile cliams about 'em I thought I oughtta set you straight.

    Think we're done here, fanboy.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-04-2020, 05:56 PM.

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  • Shadoww702
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    Originally posted by Mario g View Post
    A drained Fielding.
    So then Canelo drained himself as well right??? I mean you guys always say he big doe! And walks around at 200lbs???

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  • UNBANNED
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    Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
    No. It's not abnormal in top level fights, big PPVs and stuff for teams to be allowed objections to judges, especially if there's been recent controversy.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-xp...007-story.html



    (my emphasis)



    It's more a case of streamlining the normal objections procedure, I think, cos it's easier to ask the fighters in advance to raise their objections prior to the NAC making it's selection that going to the effort of choosing only to have the fighter say they ain't happy. Makes perfect sense when there's already been a scoring controversy and one side or the other is likely to be looking closely at the judges.

    https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-...l#NAC467Sec225



    And Golovkin still didn't pick them - which you're continuing to claim.

    EDIT: In fact, weird thing is the article you reference (which I hadn't seen before) actually does contain details of exactly how the judges were selected, and it does turn out that the protocols were changed a bit in the light of the controversy from the previous fight which I hadn't realised. Funny thing ypou chopped out the bit where it gave detail about the process. However it clearly did not favour either fighter nor is there any way in which Golovkibn could be said to have chosen the judges any more than Canelo could be said to have 'chosen the judges'. Whatever you say about one had to be said about the other too.


    Disputes and objections to gloves are so commonplace that it's simply puzzling that you're making a fuss about it, and what the hell is the rest of that nonsense?

    I mean really, you're actually objecting to a fighter negotiating for the best purse split he can get? For trying to get a venue he considers more neutral? These are things all fighters should be doing - or attempting to do - anyway, to the extent of the leverage they have.

    What.. you think that maybe every fighter who King Canelo decides to fight should just put their begging bowl down, roll over and stick their ass in the air?


    And just what the fuck are you saying I accused Canelo of, since that seems to be some issue with you? I ain't said either of 'em are particularly to blame for anything... I ain't really part of your blame generation kid - way I see the world everyone's just using what they can to get the best for themselves. All your nonsense about good guys and bad guys, warriors and cowards, is just kiddie fantasy to me. Can't even say either way whether Canelo's to blame for his failed test or at least whether he deliberately cheated. I also ain't complining that there's been no 3rd fight because I don't see the need - the trajectory is very clear.

    So I ain't blamed Canelo for anything whereas you on the other hand are calling Golovkin all kindas of cowards and divas and whatever for reasons that are so banal it's ridiculous. Dude really upset you that much?

    You probably need to learn some emotional distance from your favourite fighters man.

    Oh. And FWIW I criticise GGG plenty. As a fan I been unhappy with a number of his choices of opponent and I've said so, I've also felt that he's passed on some good fights simply to ensure that the hope of a Canelo payday is kept alive. It's perfectly understandable but has lead to a few fights I wanted to see not happening. I've said that as well. Repeatedly. He ultimately has become the 'businessman' that he accused others of being, but then I also happen to think that fighters should be thinking of their bottom line... problem is the set up of the sport with so few major players commanding such disproportionatly large purses that it actually makes no financial sense for the lower earners to risk losses against each other once they've reached a certain level.
    One of the sources you used literally states:

    “The protocol was changed a bit,” Bennett said. “There was numerous communication in an effort to make sure the right officials were officiating this fight and that we got it right.”

    And the change happened at the request of Borat, Abel, and Tom.

    In that SAME ARTICLE it says GBP agreed to EVERYTHING.

    Borat picked the judges (by eliminating judges he didnt like), picked the referee (literally objected to Referee Byrd), Borat picked Canelos gloves after protesting "they could break" during the fight, whined about venues, whined about PPV split, whined about lockerroom noise (cant make this up), and - best for last - whined about Canelos beard.

    Is this a JOKE?

    Someone like you is too retarded and Republican to know really anything. Your own source literally conflicts with that long ass white supremacist rant. Its insane.

    Anyhow thank God the fat red headed kid lit that boy up like a Christmas tree





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  • Mario g
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    Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post
    Ryder gave both Fielding and Smith tough fights and Canelo blasted through Fielding...
    A drained Fielding.

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  • AKAcronym
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    Does this guy not remember how ****ed up the gloves got the night before when the guy was wearing Canelo's brand? Anybody would have a problem with that if a glove malfunctioned that much.

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  • Citizen Koba
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    Originally posted by UNBANNED View Post
    The "rules" were changed FOR THAT FIGHT due to demand of GGG.

    They literally made a 1-fight rule so GGG could pick his judges and refs and refute the ones he didnt want.

    Canelo and GBP did not care. They agreed to everything.

    GGG whined about Beards, Gloves, Judges, Refs, Venues, Split, etc.

    If you're stuck in your position that's fine but its merely your ignorance to acknowledge there could be any wrongdoing on anyone but Canelo and DLH. Lots of times there is, but never in the DIVA GGG saga

    No. It's not abnormal in top level fights, big PPVs and stuff for teams to be allowed objections to judges, especially if there's been recent controversy.

    https://www.latimes.com/sports/la-xp...007-story.html

    ....Nevada has altered its selection process for judges and referees.

    Starting with Saturday night’s World Boxing Organization welterweight title fight between unbeaten champion Timothy Bradley of Palm Springs and Mexico’s Juan Manuel Marquez, fighters’ representatives and promoters will be empowered to object to those arbiters they don’t want involved in a major bout.

    (my emphasis)



    It's more a case of streamlining the normal objections procedure, I think, cos it's easier to ask the fighters in advance to raise their objections prior to the NAC making it's selection that going to the effort of choosing only to have the fighter say they ain't happy. Makes perfect sense when there's already been a scoring controversy and one side or the other is likely to be looking closely at the judges.

    https://www.leg.state.nv.us/NAC/NAC-...l#NAC467Sec225

    NAC 467.225  Judges: Selection; protest of assignment; fee; stationing; physical examination. (NRS 467.030)

    1.  A majority of the Commission will select the judges for the main event in a championship contest and for any other contest or exhibition which the Commission considers to be a special event.

    2.  If any licensee of the Commission protests the assignment of a judge, the protesting licensee will be given an opportunity to voice the protest and provide sufficient grounds to the Commission for the reassignment of a judge if time permits. If time does not permit, the protest will be heard by two Commissioners or a Commissioner and the Chief Inspector or Executive Director in order to make such disposition of the protest as the facts may justify. Protests not made in a timely manner may be summarily rejected.
    And Golovkin still didn't pick them - which you're continuing to claim.

    EDIT: In fact, weird thing is the article you reference (which I hadn't seen before) actually does contain details of exactly how the judges were selected, and it does turn out that the protocols were changed a bit in the light of the controversy from the previous fight which I hadn't realised. Funny thing ypou chopped out the bit where it gave detail about the process. However it clearly did not favour either fighter nor is there any way in which Golovkibn could be said to have chosen the judges any more than Canelo could be said to have 'chosen the judges'. Whatever you say about one had to be said about the other too.
    Tom Loeffler, Golovkin’s promoter, and Eric Gomez, Alvarez’s promoter, each submitted five preferred judges. From that list, Bennett narrowed the field to seven and had final say on the three recommended judges that were presented Aug. 22 at the monthly commission meeting.

    The commission unanimously approved Bennett’s final list of Dave Moretti of Las Vegas, Steve Weisfeld of New Jersey and Glenn Feldman of Connecticut.

    “The protocol was changed a bit,” Bennett said. “There was numerous communication in an effort to make sure the right officials were officiating this fight and that we got it right.”

    In the customary protocol, Bennett creates the pool of judges before sending the list to the promoters, allowing them an opportunity to speak against a judge. If Bennett agrees with the complaint, he’ll adjust the list before presenting it to the commission.
    Disputes and objections to gloves are so commonplace that it's simply puzzling that you're making a fuss about it, and what the hell is the rest of that nonsense?

    I mean really, you're actually objecting to a fighter negotiating for the best purse split he can get? For trying to get a venue he considers more neutral? These are things all fighters should be doing - or attempting to do - anyway, to the extent of the leverage they have.

    What.. you think that maybe every fighter who King Canelo decides to fight should just put their begging bowl down, roll over and stick their ass in the air?


    And just what the fuck are you saying I accused Canelo of, since that seems to be some issue with you? I ain't said either of 'em are particularly to blame for anything... I ain't really part of your blame generation kid - way I see the world everyone's just using what they can to get the best for themselves. All your nonsense about good guys and bad guys, warriors and cowards, is just kiddie fantasy to me. Can't even say either way whether Canelo's to blame for his failed test or at least whether he deliberately cheated. I also ain't complining that there's been no 3rd fight because I don't see the need - the trajectory is very clear.

    So I ain't blamed Canelo for anything whereas you on the other hand are calling Golovkin all kindas of cowards and divas and whatever for reasons that are so banal it's ridiculous. Dude really upset you that much?

    You probably need to learn some emotional distance from your favourite fighters man.

    Oh. And FWIW I criticise GGG plenty. As a fan I been unhappy with a number of his choices of opponent and I've said so, I've also felt that he's passed on some good fights simply to ensure that the hope of a Canelo payday is kept alive. It's perfectly understandable but has lead to a few fights I wanted to see not happening. I've said that as well. Repeatedly. He ultimately has become the 'businessman' that he accused others of being, but then I also happen to think that fighters should be thinking of their bottom line... problem is the set up of the sport with so few major players commanding such disproportionatly large purses that it actually makes no financial sense for the lower earners to risk losses against each other once they've reached a certain level.
    Last edited by Citizen Koba; 02-04-2020, 03:49 PM.

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