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Originally posted by Nusky View PostThis fraud beat Charles bleeping Martin for the Ibf belt.
BARELY beat a very old and out of his prime Klitschko for the vacant WBA
RAN from bum a$$ Joseph Parker for twelve rounds in a fight where the ref didn't let Parker fight on the inside,to win the WBO belt.
Couple those wins with "impressive" victories over an overrated dillian whyte, old worn povetkin, the immortal Carlos takam(another paid off ref in that fight), brezeale, Eric Molina and Andy Ruiz with a KO LOSS prior to that victory.
This hypejob hasn't beaten a single A level heavyweight. Hell be hasn't even faced an A level heavyweight. WHAT A F--KING JOKE
Here let’s compare them.....
Charles Martin Vs Stiverne.....
Well for Wilders title he best Stiverne who was considered at tough fighter with a strong chin who had just come off of back to back victories over Arreola for his title while Martin beat LEGENDARY VX2#/ST11 GLASKOV for his title....
Now Stiverne WAS considered a good tough fought fighter until he lost to Wilder TWICE so now and forever he is just an overrated bum who is FAT and out of shape.....
PARKER VS PARKER.....
Wilder called out Parker for an unification fight MANY MANY times but unfortunately Parker had no interest and made the better move financially and went with AJ......
SO THAT MAKES WILDER A COWARD WHO IS RUNNING FROM PARKER.....
Povetkin vs Povetkin......
Wilder actually had a fight set up with PED-vetkin in Russia mind you but old PEDDIE pi$$ed rocket fuel and Bruce Banner gamma rays so the fight was cancelled then in the middle of negotiations with Wilder AJ stops the negotiations and fights Pov and it’s an INCREDIBLE win for AJ
AND THAT MAKES WILDER A COWARD WHO IS RUNNING FROM POVETKIN.....
Whyte vs Ortiz.....
Two big punchers who have only lost to one fighter....
Whyte to AJ and Ortiz to Wilder....
Ortiz was considered one of the top 4 boxers in the HW division for years. A tricky southpaw with a lot of amateur experience and a tough chin and KO power...
Earned the name the Boogeyman because he was so avoided.....
Wilder fights him and KOs him but people say it was too controversial so Wilder fights him again and delivers a highlight KO that cant be disputed so then ORTIZ became an over the hill BUM who hasn’t fought anybody even though when AJ was negotiating to fight him before getting molly whopped by Tito Santana it was a dangerous fight and a good challenge by AJ....
Whyte is a tough fighter with KO power and is the mandatory WBC contender.....
After ending negotiations with Wilder vs AJ Hearn said he should fight Whyte for 8 million dollars.....
Wilder AGREED but only with the stipulation that if he won HE WAS GUARANTEED A FIGHT WITH AJ NEXT....
Hearn said and I quit “It doesn’t work like that” so the fight didn’t happen
THAT SHOWS WILDER IS A COWARD WHO IS RUNNING FROM WHYTE
Wlad vs Fury.....
AJs crowning ***el he beat the man for the titles....
Oops except he wasn’t the Man he had already lost to FURY....
But that fact doesn’t matter AJ won a UNIFICATION title...
Even though Wlad didn’t have a title but who cares.....
Wilder fights Fury to a draw but of course FURY is also a FAT OVERWEIGHT BUM who just came off a lay-off
Skipping the fact that when AJ fought Wlad he was coming off an 18 month layoff and a LOSS TO FURY.....
Finally Brezeale vs Brezeale
AJ beats Breazeale in a stunning fashion by KO in the 7th round...
It shows that AJ is a true Champion who will fight tough CHALLENGERS....
But then Wilder fought him and flattened him in the FIRST ROUND in a HIGHLIGHT KO but then that just showed Brezeale was OVERRATED AND OBVIOUSLY A BUM......
LOL LMAO LMMFAO
Look AJ fans always say how much better his resume is than Wilders but their last 3 opponents are
PARKER, POVETKIN AND RUIZ..
WILDERS
BREZEALE, ORTIZ AND FURY......
So say what you want but you cannot deny the fact that Wilder has been fighting the better competition as of lateLast edited by FreezeIzGawd; 01-05-2020, 04:35 AM.
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Originally posted by Monty Fisto View PostSorry to state the bleeding obvious but... Saying "Facts" doesn't turn opinion into fact. The outcome of a future event such as a boxing match is inherently uncertain.
For some reason AJ is shooting his mouth off left, right and centre after saying he wasn't going to chase this fight anymore, he was going to let the fight come to him. It's almost, I suppose, as if he can't let it lie because he really wants the unification.
My two cents is that the prospect of Fury/Wilder III stinks -- if that happens in the summer, that really does seem like an effort to freeze Joshua out of the picture. I suspect, though, that if Fury loses, he might either retire or go back to fighting dogs like Seferi or Schwarz.
I also think Fury has no right to call himself the lineal champ. He held Wlad's belts and defended none of them. Then opted out entirely. Since then he has fought a bunch of non-contenders, got a draw against Wilder and then gone life and death with Otto 'Who he?' Wallin. Not exactly the credentials of the man acclaimed as the world's best heavyweight.
Nor do I agree with the notion that Wilde vs Fury is 1 vs 2 for lineal. When BoxRec has Joshua rated no.1 at HW, how can it possibly be the case that the contention in the sentence prior is a consensus view?
To reiterate my opening comment: People like to say 'facts' and then substitute in opinion or speculation... But these are the facts: Joshua holds the lion's share of the belts. Wilder holds one. Fury holds none. B1tch about it all you want, but those are the actual facts.
The Ring Title is one of the most respected belts in HISTORY and it only is fought between the fighters who are recognized as #1 and #2 in their division......
FACTS!!!!
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You keep crying for no reasonOriginally posted by Nusky View PostThis fraud beat Charles bleeping Martin for the Ibf belt.
BARELY beat a very old and out of his prime Klitschko for the vacant WBA
RAN from bum a$$ Joseph Parker for twelve rounds in a fight where the ref didn't let Parker fight on the inside,to win the WBO belt.
Couple those wins with "impressive" victories over an overrated dillian whyte, old worn povetkin, the immortal Carlos takam(another paid off ref in that fight), brezeale, Eric Molina and Andy Ruiz with a KO LOSS prior to that victory.
This hypejob hasn't beaten a single A level heavyweight. Hell be hasn't even faced an A level heavyweight. WHAT A F--KING JOKE
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Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View PostHe doesn't have to drop a belt. Why do they keep repeating that lie?
Just tell the alphabet groups to stick to the rotation system that has been in place.
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Originally posted by sportbuddha View PostYeah, well if Wilder suddenly jumps at the chance to unify against someone other than Joshua for much less money than that fight...the evidence of ducking is then irrefutable.
You make yourself look silly desperately trying to sell this idea.
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Originally posted by Nusky View PostThis fraud beat Charles bleeping Martin for the Ibf belt.
BARELY beat a very old and out of his prime Klitschko for the vacant WBA
RAN from bum a$$ Joseph Parker for twelve rounds in a fight where the ref didn't let Parker fight on the inside,to win the WBO belt.
Couple those wins with "impressive" victories over an overrated dillian whyte, old worn povetkin, the immortal Carlos takam(another paid off ref in that fight), brezeale, Eric Molina and Andy Ruiz with a KO LOSS prior to that victory.
This hypejob hasn't beaten a single A level heavyweight. Hell be hasn't even faced an A level heavyweight. WHAT A F--KING JOKE
Unfortunately after the beating AJ got from Ruiz, he will be even more protected than ever.
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Originally posted by kushking View PostActually the lineal title is an actual title that is given by ring magazine & once you drop/or are stripped of the ring belt you vacate the lineal title. Ring became the defacto lineal title many yrs ago. Granted you still have cvnts like fury who go around saying hes lineal champ as a way to fight 12 rd fights & to market his bumshow previous several fights. That all said he probably deserved the nod v Wilder....
And the lineal can also be won when the top 2 in a division fight. Which is why Fury v Wilder 2 will be for lineal but 1st fight wasn't.
The other lineal titles given are lesser to the ring lineal title. Yes the lineal title can be claimed by the fighter if he believes hes lineal champ but just as Fury does,he looks like a complete tit calling himself THE LINEAL CHAMP with no belt.
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This fraud beat Charles bleeping Martin for the Ibf belt.
BARELY beat a very old and out of his prime Klitschko for the vacant WBA
RAN from bum a$$ Joseph Parker for twelve rounds in a fight where the ref didn't let Parker fight on the inside,to win the WBO belt.
Couple those wins with "impressive" victories over an overrated dillian whyte, old worn povetkin, the immortal Carlos takam(another paid off ref in that fight), brezeale, Eric Molina and Andy Ruiz with a KO LOSS prior to that victory.
This hypejob hasn't beaten a single A level heavyweight. Hell be hasn't even faced an A level heavyweight. WHAT A F--KING JOKE
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