Joshua’s team doesn’t pay fair market value

[Bullrider]

What this clown is missing is market value to one company is different from another.

He keeps comparing DAZN's business model to traditional boxing companies. Heck DAZN is probably just throwing money like drunken sailors with long-term goals. What they gain can't even be measured because it's not based on PPV's.

Just because they offered $12.5 mil to Wilder, who made $2 mil in the first Ortiz fight, doesn't mean that is his value.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Andy Ruiz is a unified champion who has all of Mexico rooting for him. I think his opponents demand more money than Wilder’s in the future assuming he stays champion.

ok and joshua is making 42 million to fight ruiz. he should be making a lot more to fight wilder right? only 8 million more? wilder was offered 6 times more money to fight joshua if you count the 12.5 million offer or 20 times more if you count the 40 million offer. 50 million isnt even twice as much as joshua is making per fight. what a letdown.

[daggum]

What this clown is missing is market value to one company is different from another.

He keeps comparing DAZN's business model to traditional boxing companies. Heck DAZN is probably just throwing money like drunken sailors with long-term goals. What they gain can't even be measured because it's not based on PPV's.

Just because they offered $12.5 mil to Wilder, who made $2 mil in the first Ortiz fight, doesn't mean that is his value.

basically what we are trying to determine in this thread is what is a persons future value and since we dont know that we can't answer that.

wilders purses only went up because of what dazn was offering him. i dont know why he is pretending otherwise. its a win win for dazn. if dazn got wilder they would like it since they think he attracts viewers(does he really...), if they make pbc spend a ton of their capital, great, less money to spend on other things for pbc.

there are 2 ways to win this race. get more viewers and more revenue until you own the market, or make your adversary bankrupt themselves so you get the market to yourself. pbc and dazn both came out of the gates trying to win the market through spending, but now they are being more coy and playing the who will bankrupt who game.

this wilder ppv flop is going to hurt pbc badly. they really need to think of something to do with wilder. 20 million a fight for no ROI? put him on normal fox? normal showtime? just pay him 20,000 and hope he doenst know how to count?

[rickJen]

Wilder was offered $12.5 mil, then $15 mil and a contract, plus a shot at 3 titles.
He turned them all down.
He made $7 mil in the Fury fight.
Kills me.

[ShaneMosleySr]

So Wilder and Ortiz are making more money with fox than they would make to fight for the network that’s throwing money around like drunken sailors?

Joshua and his team really are short changing opponents.

What this clown is missing is market value to one company is different from another.

He keeps comparing DAZN's business model to traditional boxing companies. Heck DAZN is probably just throwing money like drunken sailors with long-term goals. What they gain can't even be measured because it's not based on PPV's.

Just because they offered $12.5 mil to Wilder, who made $2 mil in the first Ortiz fight, doesn't mean that is his value.

[daggum]

Andy Ruiz is a unified champion who has all of Mexico rooting for him. I think his opponents demand more money than Wilder’s in the future assuming he stays champion.

yeah andy ruiz is a huge star. where do you get this from? so if andy ruiz beats joshua again and fights joe the plumber. joe the plumber is going to make more than the 7 million ortiz is making?

[ShaneMosleySr]

No because Joe the plumber isn’t a heavyweight contender.

yeah andy ruiz is a huge star. where do you get this from? so if andy ruiz beats joshua again and fights joe the plumber. joe the plumber is going to make more than the 7 million ortiz is making?

[garfios]

All roads lead to Joshua. Hearn and AJ call the shots. Whoever wants to dare to be great has to take what is offered. Wilder had career high paydays and ran away. Ruiz signed his contract.

Nothing wrong with what Hearn and AJ are doing. They call the shots.

If he lose again, no calling shots no more.

[Bullrider]

basically what we are trying to determine in this thread is what is a persons future value and since we dont know that we can't answer that.

wilders purses only went up because of what dazn was offering him. i dont know why he is pretending otherwise. its a win win for dazn. if dazn got wilder they would like it since they think he attracts viewers(does he really...), if they make pbc spend a ton of their capital, great, less money to spend on other things for pbc.

there are 2 ways to win this race. get more viewers and more revenue until you own the market, or make your adversary bankrupt themselves so you get the market to yourself. pbc and dazn both came out of the gates trying to win the market through spending, but now they are being more coy and playing the who will bankrupt who game.

this wilder ppv flop is going to hurt pbc badly. they really need to think of something to do with wilder. 20 million a fight for no ROI? put him on normal fox? normal showtime? just pay him 20,000 and hope he doenst know how to count?

Actually, his value can be measured by the number of PPV's he's involved in. Nothing more nothing less. But then Fury was the one who sold his first one. We'll see how it goes in the Ortiz 2 fight.

[daggum]

So Wilder and Ortiz are making more money with fox than they would make to fight for the network that’s throwing money around like drunken sailors?

Joshua and his team really are short changing opponents.

you are great at starting with your conclusion and working backwards but maybe try the other way? breazele only made a million to fight wilder. is wilder short changing opponents? you refuse to admit ortiz is making 7 million because thats what joshua offered him so i guess you just think ortiz is worth 7 mill a fight? how does ortiz's purse jump from 1 million to 7 in a year. what happened in that year? was it a popularity boom on his part? a bunch of great wins? a 7 million dollar offer from a rival network? guess we will never know. funny enough if ortiz had accpted the joshua fight you would be saying wilder short changed ortiz in the first fight by only giving him 1 million.