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Originally posted by methodcal View PostForgive me but you sound uneducated about boxing. It's won in the Ring not through opinions. When you slight Errol you more so slight the other champion cause he made Errol adjust and made it rugged.... All fights aren't fought the same. Give Shawn more credit rather than over critiquing Errol. My opinionLast edited by JakeTheBoxer; 09-29-2019, 03:34 PM.
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Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer View PostThis guy is a victim of promotional hype train. They made him believe he is a monster of welterweight division, two levels better than Porter. Now he is disappointed because he didn`t stop Porter instead of being happy he won a very competitive fight with other top guy.
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Originally posted by Verus View PostI stand corrected. I meant to say Spence is going to fight Danny Garcia next rather than that Errol called out Danny. As for my biases, Top Rank is nowhere on the list. I wouldn't give two figs for Top Rank or any other promoter for that matter. They contribute zero $$ to my bottom line. I have been following boxing for a very long time and have seen some good fighters over the years and some very great fighters as well. The current group of welterweights is good. The top ones are athletic and can box but only one, Bud Crawford, has skills that compare with the best that I have seen. He has rare skills that future fans will appreciate. If any of the current group is going to be remembered in 25 years it is Bud -- if he gets to fight the best of his generation.
Now about my "false" reality, I am not sure what you mean by that. The best we can say is that reality simply is. It is neither true nor false, it just is. If you are saying that I am wrong, well that is a different matter. I have been wrong many times before, this might be of them. I have said things that turned out to be wrong and things that have turned out to be right, as well as things that have been nonsense on the face of it. We shall see where my assessment of Crawford falls in those categories.
If you can respond with that level of humanity I can admit I misjudged you. You have to be a true fan of the sport. Wish there were more on this site. But every now an then you find authenticity amongst these pretenders.
I agree with what you are saying about Crawford, he is special and a favorite. However I think these other fighters are special also just not in the same way.
Difference is they are fighting each other. We need Crawford in the mix. However there are plenty top fighters he could fight to build the Errol match.
Problem is Bob is building Terence name of the clout Errol is actually earning. Why isn’t Crawford fighting the other welters at PBC? Bob keeps pretending Al will not work with him but truths is Al just allowed Khan to fight Terrence. Bobs cheap arse needs to stop promoting in a vacuum.
No body believes the boogie man BS that allows Arum to keep hiding fighters, making them look even more amazing to casuals fighting bums and then leaching of the successful promotion of the other fighters who are truly in boxing’s trenches.
Like Terrence but he needs a new label. This is a sport and Arum could care less about this sport at this stage of his life.
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Originally posted by markther View PostNow we know you didn't watch the Porter vs Brook fight. He came at Brook hard and aggressive through the first 6 rounds until he ran out of steam around round 7. And Porter trained harder for this fight with Spence than he did against Brook and he was at full strength all night.
And a win is a win the last time I checked. Records don’t have explanations recorded next to them, they are either wins or losses period. Garcia was recorded as a win just like Porter, deal with it. And tell your boy Crawford to have enough heart to fight Porter instead of a bunch of people at welterweight none of us can pronounce their names, LMAO!
Link: Brook vs Porter
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No one ever said Spence did not beat Garcia. It’s the spin about how he wanted to show us he could box against a smaller man. He can save that nonsense for the mentally insane.
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Originally posted by Travis scott View PostThat Australian guy beat pac
Yeah, just like Bradley beat Pac the first time they fought. Where are they now? Are they still relevant? No, they’re not because they really didn’t beat Pac, the judges made them win! Hahahahaha! Snap out of it!
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Originally posted by richardt View PostSo far Garcia, Porter, Turman, Pac, and Spence have fought in some combination, so Crawford really needs to fight one of these guys or he will be the odd man out for some time. And he has serious elite skills to compete with and potentially beat some of these guys. He needs to join the party.
I agree with a previous poster who made a comment about the PBC guys not getting shamed into taking a fight with him; and I don't see Haymon letting that happen anyway.
I think Spence-Swift Garcia is an excellent next fight for both guys. If that gets made then Manny probably goes against Mikey Garcia. Thurman and Porter are in more difficult situations. Porter probably deserves a slightly easier fight before stepping up again, or possibly someone like Josesito Lopez. However Thurman needs to step up and not look for a gimme fight imo! I'd like to see Thurman - Urgas.
At least 2021 before Haymon entertains any serious discussion with Crawford's side . . . .
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So far Garcia, Porter, Turman, Pac, and Spence have fought in some combination, so Crawford really needs to fight one of these guys or he will be the odd man out for some time. And he has serious elite skills to compete with and potentially beat some of these guys. He needs to join the party.
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