How Valid Do You See The No One Watches DAZN Argument To Preventing Fights

[Chrismart]

It's one fight, and a good offer. It's not going to hurt the brand they are trying to build too much. Go pick up the big payday, in a very winnable fight, unify, back to Fox/Showtime or whatever, and continue your run there.

[saintpat]

It would be more like Burger King offering a different product than McDonalds and both may be the same value but one charges more for a different item that should be the same price. If I want that different item or items (aka different fighters, additional match-ups) then I'll need to pay more for it or I'll never get to consume that product.

If the only way you or I can see certain fighters we want to see or certain match-ups that are on only DAZN or ESPN+, etc, etc, it is up to us to decide if we want to pay to not be left in the dark. To each his own. There are great fighters and match ups on all the networks.

If paying is the only way I'm going to see ALL the fights I want to see, then I am paying. No 1 or 2 networks is going to offer me the gamut of fights. I am biased against missing the fights I want to see and I would expect everyone else is too, whatever the cost is for serious boxing fans who can afford it, so it is what it is. For me to get the full boxing treatment in life, the ensemble of each collective a la carte source, then I need DAZN, ESPN, ESPN+, PBC/FS1/Showtime.

The point is, many people are biased against those networks for the wrong reasons and want to see them fail for the wrong reasons.

Well for the dazn shows on Sky they’re on YouTube before you can blink so I get to see them.

For WBSS there hasn’t yet been a single fight that I felt compelled to watch live. I’ve caught up on Usyk. But when they came right back with cruiserweights 2, Electric Boogaloo ... wtf man, we just established the pecking order in that division.

Same as you, I’ll pay for what I really want to see. I’ll get the PPV for Wilder vs Ortiz and Fury rematches because both first matches were compelling fights. But I won’t plop down $100 a year for dazn because to date, honestly, it doesn’t give me value worth the money. I would let an entire month or two go by without watching a single fight — for that level I will take the free TV shows just to get my boxing fix and watch classics on YouTube.

[Ray*]

Its not like Ellerbe doesn't have a point here, but when does the payday, a extra belt & a W people might respect more mean crossing over to platforms that do have less viewers for the greater good of ones career trajectory. Talking this specific situation &/or any situation cuz there are situations beyond this one or similar situations with varied differences.

It definitely seemed to be helpful to Andy who was nobody from nowhere to most people til he won a fight on a platform no one watches.

Putting our star on a app that nobody is watching. Stop playing with me! https://t.co/SrhaPcY37O

— Leonard Ellerbe (@LEllerbe) August 23, 2019

Is Ellerbe admitting they wouldn’t win that “Purse bid”? Because if they agree with that suggestion then they should win the bid and Tank wouldn’t have to fight on an app “no one watches”

And two why does he care if no one watches the app? If his fighter is getting paid career payday then why not?

[Eff Pandas]

Is Ellerbe admitting they wouldn’t win that “Purse bid”? Because if they agree with that suggestion then they should win the bid and Tank wouldn’t have to fight on an app “no one watches”

He's at least entertaining the idea he could lose the purse bid. But yea win the bid as Eddie suggests doing it & then the fight is in front of more people.

And two why does he care if no one watches the app? If his fighter is getting paid career payday then why not?

Idk about this doe. I get his point with wanting max people to wanna see your fighter fight live. There is definitely a value to that although idk that its easy to put an exact number on it. To suggest its all about the purse is short sighted & as I see it wrong.

[Stinger1]

Its not like Ellerbe doesn't have a point here, but when does the payday, a extra belt & a W people might respect more mean crossing over to platforms that do have less viewers for the greater good of ones career trajectory. Talking this specific situation &/or any situation cuz there are situations beyond this one or similar situations with varied differences.

It definitely seemed to be helpful to Andy who was nobody from nowhere to most people til he won a fight on a platform no one watches.

Putting our star on a app that nobody is watching. Stop playing with me! https://t.co/SrhaPcY37O

— Leonard Ellerbe (@LEllerbe) August 23, 2019

Ellerbe's argument is irrelevant because no one is watching PPV. Would more people watch Tank v Farmer on Showtime PPV than DAZN? I doubt it.

[Ray*]

He's at least entertaining the idea he could lose the purse bid. But yea win the bid as Eddie suggests doing it & then the fight is in front of more people.



Idk about this doe. I get his point with wanting max people to wanna see your fighter fight live. There is definitely a value to that although idk that its easy to put an exact number on it. To suggest its all about the purse is short sighted & as I see it wrong.

It’s pretty much simple, no one cares apart from the politicians who sees the fight or not, the fighters are in it for the money. If you are not that confident that you would win the purse bid then let your fighter take the fight on that s hitty app. Become a two belt champ, take those belts back to showtime/fox.

Ellerbe has zero point here, none but excuses and am not willing or ready to entertain those.

[Ray*]

Ellerbe's argument is irrelevant because no one is watching PPV. Would more people watch Tank v Farmer on Showtime PPV than DAZN? I doubt it.

Thank you. You would think Tank is currently Mayweather in terms of popularity. He obviously is a bigger star than farmer. Ellerbe doesn’t make any sense. Whatever happened to the “If it makes dollars it make sense thing” this were all his and Mayweather words.... SMH

[Eff Pandas]

It’s pretty much simple, no one cares apart from the politicians who sees the fight or not, the fighters are in it for the money. If you are not that confident that you would win the purse bid then let your fighter take the fight on that s hitty app. Become a two belt champ, take those belts back to showtime/fox.

Ellerbe has zero point here, none but excuses and am not willing or ready to entertain those.

Agree to disagree he has zero point. If its a issue isn't even debatable as far as I see it its how much of an issue it is. And thats harder to come to a conclusion about & thats the thing I'm still weighing.

[Eff Pandas]

Ellerbe's argument is irrelevant because no one is watching PPV. Would more people watch Tank v Farmer on Showtime PPV than DAZN? I doubt it.

Has Ellerbe stated that fight would be a PPV or are you just assuming it will be. I kinda feel like its still too early for a Tank PPV & idk that Tank vs Tevin is that fight.

[Mammoth]

Has Ellerbe stated that fight would be a PPV or are you just assuming it will be. I kinda feel like its still too early for a Tank PPV & idk that Tank vs Tevin is that fight.

Mayweather himself said PPV