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  • #31
    Originally posted by kingstip9 View Post
    How about we go back to the original 8 weight classes and have same day weigh ins
    Yes!!

    Would make boxing much much better. Should have never changed from this...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by TheIronMike View Post
      Cruiserweight shouldn't even exist imo
      I agree, they should just get rid of it.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        it doesn't matter what Wilder did, nobody else punches like him

        he is an exception..... because his punching power is exceptional

        which is why I suggested that we cannot use David Haye as a benchmark for beating Valuev

        also, Breazeale could have made 250 if there was a weight restriction

        they will never remove 168..... 160-175 is a near impossible jump

        it does not matter that Hopkins did it..... because he is another exception, what with him being exceptional and all that

        fair point that the super-heavyweight division would not be stacked..... we would not want to see meaningless/regurgitated fights..... maybe 240 is a better limit..... not sure tbh, just floating ideas

        tricky
        I still think that SHW division would just be Tyson Fury holding 5 belts (ring & ABC’s) and making fat club fighters who shouldn’t get title shots look ridiculous. I can’t think of anyone over 250 that could stand a chance with Fury off the top of my head.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post
          I still think that SHW division would just be Tyson Fury holding 5 belts (ring & ABC’s) and making fat club fighters who shouldn’t get title shots look ridiculous. I can’t think of anyone over 250 that could stand a chance with Fury off the top of my head.



          Fury would make 250... same with Breazeale... same with Joshua

          they would he heavyweights

          heavyweight would be... " normal "

          if introduced, I see a super-heavyweight division evolving into a combination of...

          1) " freaks "..... guys like Valuev..... monsters of nature

          2) guys who will not put in the work..... Miller..... a lot of islanders (while not being tall) struggle with weight, but hit like a truck..... and would produce entertaining slugfests

          3) bigger/older guys..... who may no longer be good enough to compete against the top heavyweights, so view super-heavyweight as a better option..... no longer having to make weight (240/250 whatever)..... guys like Dimitrenko, and maybe Joshua in 4-5 years

          4) guys who see super-heavyweight as an easier path than heavyweight..... because they have an advantage in a certain area..... speed especially, but also power stamina chin whatever..... and because the competition is overall not likely to be as technically demanding (like say, Fury in 4-5 years, with his advantage in mobility/skills)

          5) some of those HUGE NFL/NBA/rugby guys, that did not made the grade

          it would evolve over time..... and could possibly become an entertaining blend of characters/styles

          the only difference would be that heavyweights could no longer be outweighed by 100lbs..... like Haye/Valuev..... and say, Usyk/Miller

          not sure really, you could be right, maybe we should leave it..... just a thought is all
          Last edited by aboutfkntime; 06-18-2019, 10:32 PM.

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          • #35
            Definitely agree with the op but I would limit cruiser to 190 and start “Super” heavy at about 225.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 4truth View Post
              Definitely agree with the op but I would limit cruiser to 190 and start “Super” heavy at about 225.


              way too low imho

              240 would be minimum you could go

              250 could be better, but rexy made some good points

              not sure really, but 225 seems a little low

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              • #37
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                way too low imho

                240 would be minimum you could go

                250 could be better, but rexy made some good points

                not sure really, but 225 seems a little low
                At 240 you would have fighters weighing 250 + on fight night, fighting guys who could not quite make 190.

                No matter where you put the limit though, there is still nothing to keep freaks like Wilder and Usyk from challenging for the open class title.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                  way too low imho

                  240 would be minimum you could go

                  250 could be better, but rexy made some good points

                  not sure really, but 225 seems a little low
                  225 is way too low, you’d have Abel Sanchez calling Gassiev “Mr 175-225”

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    At 240 you would have fighters weighing 250 + on fight night, fighting guys who could not quite make 190.

                    No matter where you put the limit though, there is still nothing to keep freaks like Wilder and Usyk from challenging for the open class title.

                    but a 50lb weight difference is better than a 100lb weight difference

                    and true, there would be nothing stopping the heavies moving up

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