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  • #21
    Originally posted by MinuteMaid5 View Post
    What's up Casual Fan?
    Not much, having some coffee break right now

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      How do you know this was GRJ reluctance? Maybe he wants to be more active and he isn#t getting that.

      You seems to straight dismiss the fighter and side with the promoter, maybe you know more about the situation and can shed more light.

      But looking at fighters at PBC they are generally not that active. So i wouldn't put this all on GRJ.
      I may be wrong but Iíve heard it from various media/ personalities covering the sport through the years that Itís Russel that prefers fighting once a year

      Seems sense though that that this is GRJ choice , Some PBC Guys Fight infrequently for stretches of time but for the most part their established Champions/ Names avg 2 fights a year, Why would GRJ be any different? Heís had a strap 4-5 years and in that whole time only fights once a year always in April or May

      if he wanted To Fight More Heíd Have at least a year or 2 in the last 5 where he fought 2x. Why would every fighter get on avg 2 fights except GRJ if not by choice

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      • #23
        The problem seems here that GRJ wants a too much money for fighting once a year against bums and he has zero momentum and no fans. Al should release him

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        • #24
          Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
          I may be wrong but Iíve heard it from various media/ personalities covering the sport through the years that Itís Russel that prefers fighting once a year

          Seems sense though that that this is GRJ choice , Some PBC Guys Fight infrequently for stretches of time but for the most part their established Champions/ Names avg 2 fights a year, Why would GRJ be any different? Heís had a strap 4-5 years and in that whole time only fights once a year always in April or May

          if he wanted To Fight More Heíd Have at least a year or 2 in the last 5 where he fought 2x. Why would every fighter get on avg 2 fights except GRJ if not by choice
          The evidence does NOT support your theory or the rumours. The evidence supports the boxers NOT PBC, There are plenty of fighters who have the same activity levels as GRJ in PBC.

          So it cannot be the boxers, it has to be the promotional outfit, how do you explain Breazeale having only three fights since he lost to Joshua in mid-2016 and Whyte having nine fights in within the same time frame Or Andy Ruiz having seven fights in that same time frame?

          How do we explain Broner, Spence, Danny Garcia, Charlo etc having an average of 1 or 2 fights per year between them over the last 3 years?

          There is an activity issue with PBC, and this has been glaring for a while now, some boxers actually want to get in the ring, fight, get paid and showcase their talent...Oppose to sitting on the shelf and getting paid minimum cheque and then singing "All praise Haymon" on social media.

          So am praising GRJ for wanting to fight more often, he would obviously be destroyed for speaking out as evident by your original post about him. But for a talented boxer like him, he has turned into a right ol joke with his non-activity and TBA/TBC opponents....Maybe that's why he is speaking out and good for him.

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          • #25
            No US fighter worth anything is signing with Dazn because it’s kills their marketability.

            These guy want to be on Fox and ESPN.

            Dazn has no eyeballs on it and kills their sponsor rates.

            Less eyeballs = less $$$

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            • #26
              Can't blame him.

              If you're protecting a fighter from me and we're under the same banner you're basically preventing me from being paid. So he's benefiting one fighter and being a detriment to another. Pretty sure I remember saying if Spence didn't get the Spence or Thurman fights he should demand a release or demand a higher pay.

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              • #27
                Is Haymon really the problem? Or does this guy not want to fight. I mean he has fought just once a year for like half a decade. And when you hear him talk he doesn't even sound like he likes boxing or has any passion for the sport.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Ray* View Post
                  The evidence does NOT support your theory or the rumours. The evidence supports the boxers NOT PBC, There are plenty of fighters who have the same activity levels as GRJ in PBC.

                  So it cannot be the boxers, it has to be the promotional outfit, how do you explain Breazeale having only three fights since he lost to Joshua in mid-2016 and Whyte having nine fights in within the same time frame Or Andy Ruiz having seven fights in that same time frame?

                  How do we explain Broner, Spence, Danny Garcia, Charlo etc having an average of 1 or 2 fights per year between them over the last 3 years?

                  There is an activity issue with PBC, and this has been glaring for a while now, some boxers actually want to get in the ring, fight, get paid and showcase their talent...Oppose to sitting on the shelf and getting paid minimum cheque and then singing "All praise Haymon" on social media.

                  So am praising GRJ for wanting to fight more often, he would obviously be destroyed for speaking out as evident by your original post about him. But for a talented boxer like him, he has turned into a right ol joke with his non-activity and TBA/TBC opponents....Maybe that's why he is speaking out and good for him.
                  You sound stupid and just looking to argue for the sake of arguing without any facts and basically no truth to everything you wrote

                  Since Russel won his strap in March 2015 in 4 + years heís fought 4ítimes. The last 3 being on the same May weekend

                  Now letís looks at some other champion A-side Main/Co-Main fighters on the PBC roster and how many fights theyíve had since Gary won his strap / A year or 2 isnít really a large sample size but 4 years should be

                  Breazeale 7
                  Wilder 8
                  Danny Garcia 7
                  LSC 7
                  Mares 4 ( injuries)
                  Peterson4
                  Porter 6
                  Mikey Garcia 6
                  Spence 8
                  Charlo6 & 7
                  Hurd 9
                  Lara6
                  Tank Davis 9
                  John Molina 5
                  Broner7
                  Badou 7
                  M Browne 7
                  Thurman 4 has 5th in July been injured 2 years
                  Omar Fig -3
                  Berto 4

                  So barring injury out of that list 3 (15%)who have fought as seldom as Gary , None if them held straps during that time with the reason for Omar because he seemed he wanted to retire after the Demarco fight and Lamont being used as More of a B- side the last couple years .

                  Gary would be destroyed if he spoke out. You sure buds because it seems to me that Durrell , Vanes , Matthysse all left with no issue being made or being held up in court and Dirrell went back & Vanes wishes he could go back


                  Do the guys that donít have clout or arenít a priority fight less often probablyn but they are almost all just used as B side opponets and arent the Headliners / Co-headliner when they fight

                  Thereís no other entity in the sport that would give Gary big cheques & continued Main Event Exposure fighting as infrequently and always against low level competition

                  Gary should be on his knees thanking Haymon for still supporting him with what heís done with his career while holding a strap

                  But continue on with your argument

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                    GRJ coming across as a bit of a ungrateful little f.ucker

                    There is no one else in the sport except Haymon that would put up Russellís reluctance to fight more one once a year against almost exclusively against lower level fighters while still willing To give him good to great paydays and exposure.

                    Good luck if he can but what GRJ needs to do is fight Santa Cruz or anyone with a pulse at 126 instead of bumping his gums about getting better paydays he wonít get from anyone else
                    End of the day, he wants that big fight with LSC period. It should and needs to happen. If he doesn't get it, then he has options elsewhere. GRJ is hypocrite in some of the things he says, but he has a valid case here of being upset with his team if they can't get him a in house unification bout vs LSC. Like there are no excuses for that not to happen.

                    LIS on Saturday, his next fight better be against LSC/Davis/Farmer...This was when there were rumors he may leave to DAZN. If he goes to ESPN, then Valdez/Warrington/Berchelt. I'll be okay if he fights Mares/Frampton, but he should be aiming higher than that.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by R_Walken View Post
                      I may be wrong but Iíve heard it from various media/ personalities covering the sport through the years that Itís Russel that prefers fighting once a year
                      I too have heard variations on this, based on Gary being somewhat injury prone. When I brought it up with someone loosely acquainted with him they reacted with genuine surprise.
                      This has been followed by the man himself speaking out.

                      Make of it what you will.

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