Wilder smiles: "50/50 or no AJ fight, belts not important"

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yeah of course uncle al loves Wilder so much he guaranteed him much more than his worth.

DAZN says his worth is 120 million. Seems Al isn't guaranteeing more than he's worth.

I didn't say it was close to breaking even, I said barely breaking even, there's a difference.

If you need 250 to break even and you get 325, that's not barely breaking even. That's 30% past breaking even.

Very small numbers to make 5million profit on a PPV show including two undefeated heavyweight champs.

Joshua vs Parker was two undefeated heavyweight champions and did around the same amount of PPV revenue as Wilder vs Fury. Not bad considering nobody knows who Wilder is and Joshua is the most famous man who ever lived and may very well be the reincarnation of Christ himself.

[Cobra Curry]

But Joshua is a network free agent too. So it's not unreasonable to ask Joshua to come to Wilder's platform since PPV can generate a lot more money than DAZN.

Apparently DAZN have first and last refusal on Joshua, meaning of they able to match or better any other offers then he fights there.
If the fight is worth $100 million, $40 million for Wilder seems more than fair imho.

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Apparently DAZN have first and last refusal on Joshua, meaning of they able to match or better any other offers then he fights there.
If the fight is worth $100 million, $40 million for Wilder seems more than fair imho.

Hearn can't keep his story straight on whether Joshua is free to fight on Showtime PPV. Hearn can't keep his story straight about anything. So it's a waste of time trying to figure what Joshua can or can't do. All we know is what he will do. Which is whatever Hearn wants. And Hearn wants to keep DAZN happy because if DAZN cancels their deal with Matchroom when the two years are up, Matchroom is ****ed.

$40 million for Wilder seems fair imho too and maybe after the Breazeale fight, if they make Wilder a fair offer, he'll take it.

Your opinion of a fair offer may differ from mine, but in my opinion, the fair deal would be.

First fight on SHO PPV (US fight), 60/40 split.

Second fight on DAZN (UK fight), 50/50 if Wilder won the first fight, 70/30 in AJ's favor if he won the first fight.

That would probably get the deal done. But DAZN is trying to be greedy and get both fights.

[Ray*]

Apparently DAZN have first and last refusal on Joshua, meaning of they able to match or better any other offers then he fights there.
If the fight is worth $100 million, $40 million for Wilder seems more than fair imho.

We all know Hearn would go where the money is, he isn’t afraid to have Joshua on showtime or ESPN if it benefits his and Joshua’s pocket. We have just seen that with Whyte when he fought Chisora. That fight was picked up by showtime when DAZN didn’t offer what Hearn or Whyte would want. So with Hearn it’s all about the money.

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We all know Hearn would go where the money is

Hearn is smart. He's not going to value a little more money for one night over a lot more money long term with DAZN. His deal with DAZN was only guaranteed for two years. It's not worth infuriating them by putting the fight on Showtime even if it would put a little more money in Hearn's pocket on that particular night.

he isn’t afraid to have Joshua on showtime or ESPN if it benefits his and Joshua’s pocket. We have just seen that with Whyte when he fought Chisora.

DAZN didn't want that fight. They had the right to buy it and passed.

[Cobra Curry]

Hearn can't keep his story straight on whether Joshua is free to fight on Showtime PPV. Hearn can't keep his story straight about anything. So it's a waste of time trying to figure what Joshua can or can't do. All we know is what he will do. Which is whatever Hearn wants. And Hearn wants to keep DAZN happy because if DAZN cancels their deal with Matchroom when the two years are up, Matchroom is ****ed.

$40 million for Wilder seems fair imho too and maybe after the Breazeale fight, if they make Wilder a fair offer, he'll take it.

Your opinion of a fair offer may differ from mine, but in my opinion, the fair deal would be.

First fight on SHO PPV (US fight), 60/40 split.

Second fight on DAZN (UK fight), 50/50 if Wilder won the first fight, 70/30 in AJ's favor if he won the first fight.

That would probably get the deal done. But DAZN is trying to be greedy and get both fights.

For me, the first fight ought to be 60/40 UK or 70/30 US, based on each guy's commercial value and sporting achievements. But hey, it's an opinion and that's what negotiations are for.

As far as networks go, I imagine both sides will want the novelty value of the first fight. We've seen what DAZN are willing to pay and if Showtime are matching them they'll need that investment to pay off.

I fear this goes the way of Tyson/Lewis, happening too late to really matter.

[LacedUp]

DAZN says his worth is 120 million. Seems Al isn't guaranteeing more than he's worth.




If you need 250 to break even and you get 325, that's not barely breaking even. That's 30% past breaking even.




Joshua vs Parker was two undefeated heavyweight champions and did around the same amount of PPV revenue as Wilder vs Fury. Not bad considering nobody knows who Wilder is and Joshua is the most famous man who ever lived and may very well be the reincarnation of Christ himself.

They're offering him that because of Joshua.
Don't forget that.

They're offering Joshua big money without Wilder.
Wilder is only wanted because Joshua wants his belt.

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As far as networks go, I imagine both sides will want the novelty value of the first fight.

The problem is that you can't charge $10 for fight 1 and then try to charge $80 for fight 2. So the first fight would have to be PPV and the second fight would have to be DAZN if each was going to get a fight.

Also, Hearn is insisting on the second fight being in the UK, and you can't do a UK fight on PPV here.

[Curt Henning]

wbc, wba, ibf stays breaking it down...using common sense and logic

I still have to laugh at people that think hearn "goes where the money as is"...as wbc stated...a few more bucks for one night isn't worth more in the long term to hearn...hes doing everything with DAZN in mind...because, as noted, if they drop him hes kinda screwed

[15 Rounds again]

It wasn't a bogus offer. Hearn, Joshua, Finkel, Espinoza, etc all confirmed it was legit.

He also accepted 15 flat to go to the UK. He did everything possible to make the fight last year. Hearn just refused to do the fight last year. Feeling jerked around and lied to, Wilder said **** it, I won't take the fight until it's 50/50. Now he's on a mission to improve his worth until he can get 50/50. Good for him. A man should have goals.

He might as well set his goal at 70/30 for him. You'd likely commend him for that as "a man should have goals."
He's either out in left field with his own valuation of himself, or he's pricing himself out as a way to duck.
Those are the only two possibilities as to what is the truth. We disagree on that. 99% of people make me right. I'll be over here being realistic- say hi to the folks in La La Land for me.