Comments Thread For: Luis Ortiz Decisions a Durable Christian Hammer Over Ten

[Phenom]

Povetkin looked way better, he's always been better, he was beating Ortiz in the amateurs and has one of the best resumes in the division.

He actually has a better win against hammer in his last 5 fights ??

Why bring up Amateur when I was talking about Povetkin fight v Hammer? Povetkin didn't land anything of consequence in 12 rounds where Ortiz actually hurt hammer to the body a couple of times

[The plunger man]

Ortiz has only been stopped by the hardest puncher in the division, Wilder would knock JP out too.

Hammer stalked Tyson Fury the whole bout, against Ortiz he constantly backpedaled. He fought Wach 8 years ago when he barely had 8 fights in and he had to stalk him as well.

AJ couldn't even crush Takam or Parker that early and Ortiz is way better.

hammer got stopped wach and fury ..spilka and washington got sparked quicker by kownacki and both of them were beating wilder lol.
Duhaupas was knocked clean out by povetkin and wilder was level on points and couldnt even drop him
Yiu wanna play that game son your lose.
Wilder was schooled by fury yiu wanna play that game lol
All wilder has to do is sign to fight aj and we will see that useless yank get stretchered out.
Wilder is a bum and his game is up gumbo.

Lets see what he doe's with breazeal next.
Your another mug who supports this buffoon

[Jkp]

matchroom promote him twice. It was never a long term contract. allen and malik were running the whole time, they were there only to survive. Still he won both fights very easy and if I recall correctly allen was koed. The only reason hearn promote him was to keep him away from aj. Stop with the bs.

Very true.

[Cutthroat]

hammer got stopped wach and fury ..spilka and washington got sparked quicker by kownacki and both of them were beating wilder lol.
Duhaupas was knocked clean out by povetkin and wilder was level on points and couldnt even drop him
Yiu wanna play that game son your lose.
Wilder was schooled by fury yiu wanna play that game lol
All wilder has to do is sign to fight aj and we will see that useless yank get stretchered out.
Wilder is a bum and his game is up gumbo.

Lets see what he doe's with breazeal next.
Your another mug who supports this buffoon

-Hammer fought Wach in barely his 8th fight 10 years ago, Wach already had 21 fights.
-Hammer was more aggressive against Fury & Wach, he only tried to survive against Ortiz.
-Hammer went 12 with Pedvetkin and didn't get hurt nearly as often
-Duhapas took the Pedvetkin fight on a day's notice & Pedvetkin tested positive for ostarine.


Hearn is terrified of Wilder and even AJ doesn't sound confident, turned down a 50 mill offer, won't give Wilder fair odds, only called out Wilder when he wanted to give Fury the rematch, he doesn't even have a win as good as either Fury or Ortiz.

[dray435]

Unless you are Ortiz ‘s wife don’t say a word please. Tell me a fight where he did train and looked fantastic? . You don’t know, besides at 48 years how hard can you really train?

Let me see....how about the Jennings and Wilder fights just to name a few? He completely dissected and koed Jennings who was considered a top heavyweight at the time.He was battering Wilder all over the ring until he abandoned his game plan and threw caution to the wind and was eventually stopped himself.But he was battering Wilder for most of the fight and clearly beating him,and was on the verge of stopping him,until he himself was stopped,as a result of carelessness.Anyone claiming Ortiz is a non factor doesn't know boxing or is either biased against him or both.

[Nusky]

They won't fight me either. I still don't understand this nonsense about Ortiz being ducked. He's a nobody!

They keep mentioning his name when listing possible opponents but you say "he's a nobody". Thank you for proving my point and exposing yourself as another self-contradicting idiot....

And yes they'll still duck him because most these so called "fighters" are pu$$ies that don't want to challenge themselves.

[LacedUp]

Wait a minute. I always thought that he was cleared of that recent drug test for popping dirty for High Blood Pressure medication. The WBC ruled that he had a TUE (The****utic Use Exemption) for taking them due to a medical issue.

Well at least that's the narrative that I keep hearing from English fans on this forum who attempt to discredit, slander and smear Wilder's TKO victory over him due to the fact that he was both old, sickly and had hypertension.

First he was removed from the WBA, then the WBC.

Then wilder decided he wanted to fight him anyway.

No one ducked Ortiz, he got himself in trouble.

[Noelanthony]

Let me see....how about the Jennings and Wilder fights just to name a few? He completely dissected and koed Jennings who was considered a top heavyweight at the time.He was battering Wilder all over the ring until he abandoned his game plan and threw caution to the wind and was eventually stopped himself.But he was battering Wilder for most of the fight and clearly beating him,and was on the verge of stopping him,until he himself was stopped,as a result of carelessness.Anyone claiming Ortiz is a non factor doesn't know boxing or is either biased against him or both.

He beat Jennings 20 years ago when he was in his twenties he is old now. I will concede he was battering Wilder all over the place which isn’t in my eyes an amazing feat because Wilder is always getting outboxed until that Thor hammer hits home

[nick_viking]

matchroom promote him twice. It was never a long term contract. allen and malik were running the whole time, they were there only to survive. Still he won both fights very easy and if I recall correctly allen was koed. The only reason hearn promote him was to keep him away from aj. Stop with the bs.

I was really excited about this killer Cuban I’d heard so much about fighting on Matchroom, then I watched the Allen and Scott fights and any excitement evaporated. Make no mistake, Ortiz might have won comfortably but both fights stunk the place out.

Conversely to your opinion, I think Matchroom signed him in the hope of building a Joshua fight, not protecting him.

The thing is with Ortiz, exciting performances seem to be the exception rather than the rule. Who’s he looked good against since fighting Scott? Cojanu? Martz? Absolute trash. Without getting stopped by Wilder, no one would even be mentioning his name.

[champion4ever]

First he was removed from the WBA, then the WBC.

Then wilder decided he wanted to fight him anyway.

No one ducked Ortiz, he got himself in trouble.

No, he was initially suspended by both the WBA and the WBC. However the WBC lifted their suspension after Ortiz served four months of it and was then reinstated to challenge Deontay Wilder for his WBC title.

However, the WBA did not reinstate him because he refused to submit a B' sample for the initial positive test. So the WBA decided to suspend him initially for six months and then subsequently for an entire year and removed both his mandatory status and him completely off their rankings list altogether.

Their justification at the time was that Ortiz was a repeat offender for popping dirty several years prior in 2014 for anabolic steroids.