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  • _Rexy_
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    #81
    Originally posted by Fabes88
    He was a mandatory and a short notice replacement. He replaced pulev like two weeks before the fight I remember clearly because I bought tickets and was ****ting myself the fight would be cancelled. It was a mandatory because it was supposed to be pulev but the takam fight satisfied the IBF’s order. 10 days isn’t short notice to you? Ok. So if a fight at 10 days notice that satisfied the mandatory order isn’t a mandatory short notice fight you tell me what it is wise guy.

    I’m sorry but the way you’re willing to bend over backwards to defend wilders opposition yet call world champions like Parker no hopers kind of shows your bias don’t you think? You want to sit here and critique a 15 fight novice for fighting klitchko who was one fight removed from a 10’year reign as champ but Gerald Washington is a decent name? Sigh. People say aj fans are unreasonable but we have to put up with ****ty logic like this.
    I hadn't realized that it was 10 days notice. I could have sworn that we all had more notice than that. My mistake.


    And I'll gladly **** on a good 80% (pulled number out of my ass, please don't do the actual math) of Wilders resume, I just like Washington. He's a good scalp for Miller so he's a good scalp for Wilder. And I'm not the one who said Parker. Although I've been one of Parkers biggest critics (I've been critical of him since he was put in the top 10 originally. I always felt that he was thrown there due to potential, and not his actual skill) He's still a good win.

    Klit was shot though lol

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    • Cadet Bonespurs
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      #82
      Arum is only being half truthful as usual.

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      • Fabes88
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        #83
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        I hadn't realized that it was 10 days notice. I could have sworn that we all had more notice than that. My mistake.


        And I'll gladly **** on a good 80% (pulled number out of my ass, please don't do the actual math) of Wilders resume, I just like Washington. He's a good scalp for Miller so he's a good scalp for Wilder. And I'm not the one who said Parker. Although I've been one of Parkers biggest critics (I've been critical of him since he was put in the top 10 originally. I always felt that he was thrown there due to potential, and not his actual skill) He's still a good win.

        Klit was shot though lol
        The thing about you is I disagree with so much you say but you’re one of the only people who openly admit when they got something wrong

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        • Ake-Dawg
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          #84
          Originally posted by _Rexy_
          I hadn't realized that it was 10 days notice. I could have sworn that we all had more notice than that. My mistake.


          And I'll gladly **** on a good 80% (pulled number out of my ass, please don't do the actual math) of Wilders resume, I just like Washington. He's a good scalp for Miller so he's a good scalp for Wilder. And I'm not the one who said Parker. Although I've been one of Parkers biggest critics (I've been critical of him since he was put in the top 10 originally. I always felt that he was thrown there due to potential, and not his actual skill) He's still a good win.

          Klit was shot though lol
          Takam was a short notice replacement by contract only. Hearn is on record saying that he had Takam on standby for weeks because he heard rumors of a Pulev injury.

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          • _Rexy_
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            #85
            Originally posted by Fabes88
            The thing about you is I disagree with so much you say but you’re one of the only people who openly admit when they got something wrong
            hey, if I **** something up then I'm the first to admit it.


            Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
            Takam was a short notice replacement by contract only. Hearn is on record saying that he had Takam on standby for weeks because he heard rumors of a Pulev injury.
            That could be it then. Explains how a quality guy like Takam was ready for the fight only ten days out.

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            • Batfink
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              #86
              The boxing politics are now international and these comments from Arum certainly confirm AJ is known on a global stage. I’m convinced that all the other boxers in the heavyweight division bar Tyson fury are looking on at AJ with envious eyes on his revenue, stardom and general appeal in the most prominent division in boxing.

              It’s only natural that all promotors will want a piece of the revenue pie that AJ is generating and ride the wave of renewed interest in the division. Aj has really given a shot in the arm of heavyweight boxing drawing the public attention to the division which was at an all time low during the Klitschko era.

              Life is built on failures and successes and yes matchroom and Aj may have missed a trick by not putting this Wilder uprising to bed when it arose with a vengeance Q3 2018. It’s was an opportune moment that was miss managed and poorly handled by matchroom leading to a rebirth of the Tyson Fury Phoenix and the propulsion of Wilder into the eye of the mainstream media and boxing fraternity.

              It was a huge mistake and now Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder have been given the platform to build their individual reigns or claims to the undisputed or lineal crowns.

              Joshua’s is somewhat in the slipstream but that is by no means the end of the story and like all failures we can learn from them and move forward. It’s now time for Joshua to step up or shut up and consolidate his position over the division. He has to show Fury and Wilder who is boss and who is number #1 it’s become more about reputation than purse splits. It’s times like these that you cannot be wasting time debating percentages it’s time to demand an answer to the question that has risen of who really is the best by taking the pretenders to the throne into the ring and decimating them with devastating effect.

              Take a look at what Tyson Fury did he stepped into the ring with the most devastating heavyweight knockout artist in recent times after almost 3 years out of the game. That’s the type of character boxing needs and that’s the level of challenge that we should expect from a heavyweight champion the willingness to take on all comers with a pure desire to demonstrate who’s the best

              It’s time to separate the men from the boys

              Cometh the hour cometh the man

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              • lion33lit
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                #87
                Originally posted by Fabes88
                When he fought klitchko, he was the number one active heavyweight at the time. It’s all well and good re writing history now. Martin was a world champion and plenty of people picked him to beat aj includinh fury. We’ve seen since that he’s not actually that bad.

                Joshua did not say he’s scared of losing. He’s pretty much said it’s a fact of life and it will happen one day what matters more is how you recover. Does that seem like the comments of someone scared to lose?

                You’re mentioning guys like legg and butler. Aj fought them when he was a prospect. Wilder was fighting that level of opposition as world champion.

                Also don’t forget a lot of people chose Parker to beat aj as well. Povetkin is what’s known as a mandatory challenger but you obviously dksab so you may not have been aware.
                Wlad was a well known boring clincher "at the time" coming off an EMBARRASSING PAST PRIME piss poor performance against Fury! Oh, I get it! To YOU he was #1 at 41??.....

                We've seen that Martin is "not actually that bad"(??) What has he done since getting flattened by your super hero?? You sure know alot about boxing....In what fashion did your mesmerizing skillful Martin win his title?

                "Plenty people"(?) like YOU, your alter ego, and the other girl you see in the mirror when you pluck your eye brows ..lol? ....Fury ALWAYS "picked"/picks against Joshua because he has an agenda!! Wake up Fabien!! ...Do you know what your hero Joshua recently said 4 months ago about the fear of losing? "I ALWAYS THINK about that ONE punch," among other long talk on the "fear of losing"....

                I'm not going to open your zombie thinking regarding your hero and his team, so I'll leave you to meditate on how well Parker is also doing after his loss against your hero....You're the "brains" in all this! ....Yeah, and your hero had no other choice but to fight PEDvetkin?! I guess "mandatory" means "mandatory" when Team-Hearn wants it to... You're so knowledegable ....Take care, and have a GREAT day...

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                • PapaBricks
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by earl-hickey
                  He probably is more popular in the US but who cares?

                  Joshua is a British fighter and the American heavyweight scene has been dead for almost 2 decades.

                  If Fury wins the wilder rematch it'll carry on being dead.

                  It's not like when Lewis was champ and there was tons of big money options in the US. It's a different landscape now. If Fury beats Wilder then the fight is Fury vs Joshua which will do 2 million uk buys and 100k at wembley stadium.

                  Wlad never "needed" America and neither does AJ, and the American fans need to accept that


                  Who cares? Eddie Hearn and Anthony Joshua care. That is why they are looking into fighting in the US and would love to make the Wilder fight because that is where is the biggest payday for him would be. That's common sense.

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                  • GhostofDempsey
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                    #89
                    Odd how Bob hasn't criticized Wilder's long list of no-hopers. Can't recall the last time I've seen a HW champion with only 20 fights get so much criticism for not giving up the advantages of being the A-side and expected to jump right into a fight with a guy who took 40 fights before getting in the ring with a competitive opponent. Wilder needs to know his place, he turned down $15M, and he won't see another fat paycheck unless he can rematch Fury.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
                      Odd how Bob hasn't criticized Wilder's long list of no-hopers. Can't recall the last time I've seen a HW champion with only 20 fights get so much criticism for not giving up the advantages of being the A-side and expected to jump right into a fight with a guy who took 40 fights before getting in the ring with a competitive opponent. Wilder needs to know his place, he turned down $15M, and he won't see another fat paycheck unless he can rematch Fury.



                      cool story bro

                      btw..... Wilder ACCEPTED $15m

                      Joshua REFUSED $50m lol

                      BIG difference there

                      and after Wilder ACCEPTED that $15m low-ball, Hearn refused to include wording in the contract that guaranteed Joshua next..... which cannot be referred to as anything other than a scam lol

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