Comments Thread For: Arum: Joshua Damaged His Credibility, Fury Viewed as #1 in U.S.

[Jax teller]

You are correct! Joshua deliberately went after charles Martin, an ageing klitchko and an average parker when he could have challenged wilder instead but chose not to as wanted the 'low hanging fruit' lol

Wrong Martin went after AJ hoping he was still green with 15 fights. Klitshcko was No.1 at the time above Wilder and people including Arum and Fury picked Parker to beat AJ.

If AJ was going for the 'low hanging fruit' then you must consider guys like Wilder were picking up the rotten fruit from the floor with no unifications and just names like Washington to his resume.

[*Makaveli*]

Fck this popularity contest bullshitl

None of it means anything when 2 fighters get in the ring together. That's when we find out who is No1.

**** on . If its a personality contest then Fury is No1 , he has more personality and charisma than AJ and Wilder put together .

We only care who the No1 boxer is .

[The plunger man]

You do realize that score would make it 113-113 Don't you???

no it doesn’t ..do maths correctly, 114-112 for fury with stomps numbers.
Let me break down for you fella so you don’t get confused.
Tyson with 8 winning rounds is 80 points ...plus 2 rounds at 9 points and 2 rounds where he got 8 points. 80+18+16 = 114
Wilder winning 4 rounds is 40 points and then losing 8 which nets him 72 points
So 40 + 72 = 112
So all you have to do is add correctly and you see that the result is
Fury 114
Wilder 112

[kafkod]

no it doesn’t ..do maths correctly, 114-112 for fury with stomps numbers.
Let me break down for you fella so you don’t get confused.
Tyson with 8 winning rounds is 80 points ...plus 2 rounds at 9 points and 2 rounds where he got 8 points. 80+18+16 = 114
Wilder winning 4 rounds is 40 points and then losing 8 which nets him 72 points
So 40 + 72 = 112
So all you have to do is add correctly and you see that the result is
Fury 114
Wilder 112

Lol. Kinda buzzed right now. Was actually about to take my comment back. Lol

Andre Ward and Freddie Roach also added the scores up wrong, which astonished me.

They both gave 8 rounds to Fury, 4 rounds to Wilder = 116 - 112.

Then instead of taking 2 points off Fury's total because of the KDs = 114 - 112, they took away 2 of the rounds he won and gave them to Wilder = 114 - 114.

[_Rexy_]

Wrong Martin went after AJ hoping he was still green with 15 fights. Klitshcko was No.1 at the time above Wilder and people including Arum and Fury picked Parker to beat AJ.

If AJ was going for the 'low hanging fruit' then you must consider guys like Wilder were picking up the rotten fruit from the floor with no unifications and just names like Washington to his resume.

None of that is true.

Edit: but for fun, here’s the heavyweight rankings before AJ/Wlad (tbrb)

Heavyweight
Champion: Open
1. Anthony Joshua
2. Luis Ortiz
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Joseph Parker
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Carlos Takam
7. Andy Ruiz
8. Christian Hammer
9. Dillian Whyte
10. Tony Bellew

[kafkod]

Lol. Kinda buzzed right now. Was actually about to take my comment back. Lol

**** on . If its a personality contest then Fury is No1 , he has more personality and charisma than AJ and Wilder put together .

We only care who the No1 boxer is .

I think Fury has the skills to beat them both too, if he can get back to his best form, but it's all just opinion and speculation till the fights happen.

[Jax teller]

None of that is true.

Edit: but for fun, here’s the heavyweight rankings before AJ/Wlad (tbrb)

Heavyweight
Champion: Open
1. Anthony Joshua
2. Luis Ortiz
3. Deontay Wilder
4. Joseph Parker
5. Kubrat Pulev
6. Carlos Takam
7. Andy Ruiz
8. Christian Hammer
9. Dillian Whyte
10. Tony Bellew

Im sorry I got it wrong Wlad was Ring No. 2 behind Fury

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Joshua_vs._Wladimir_Klitschko

Martin did call AJ out.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10172205/charles-martin-claims-anthony-joshua-has-been-on-his-radar-since-before-their-fight-was-sealed

Fury bet anyone Parker beats AJ

https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury/status/930770013681799169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E930770013681799169&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fboxing%2F4919713%2Ftyson-fury-bet-joseph-parker-anthony-joshua%2F

Arum saying Parker can beat AJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPHgtr0OR8

But none of that's real right?

Do everyone on boxing scene a favour and disappear with your Wilder nut hugging agenda.

[_Rexy_]

Im sorry I got it wrong Wlad was Ring No. 2 behind Fury

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Joshua_vs._Wladimir_Klitschko

Martin did call AJ out.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10172205/charles-martin-claims-anthony-joshua-has-been-on-his-radar-since-before-their-fight-was-sealed

Fury bet anyone Parker beats AJ

https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury/status/930770013681799169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E930770013681799169&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fboxing%2F4919713%2Ftyson-fury-bet-joseph-parker-anthony-joshua%2F

Arum saying Parker can beat AJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPHgtr0OR8

But none of that's real right?

Do everyone on boxing scene a favour and disappear with your Wilder nut hugging agenda.

you're cherry picking again. Wlad wasn't ranked by ESPN. TBRB, or any of the sanctioning bodies, So you grab a wiki link saying he was #2 by Ring. Cool, even though 2 years of inactivity and a loss would have removed him from their rankings...but whatever, you have a wiki link!

Oh, Ring has historical archives of their rankings though:

Tyson Fury, Champion
Anthony Joshua
Deontay Wilder
Joseph Parker
Alexander Povetkin
Luis Ortiz
Kubrat Pulev
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Dillian Whyte
Dominic Breazeale
Jarrell Miller

Arum said Parker can beat AJ. Arum is Parkers promoter. Whats your point? I'm sure Hearn is going to say Crolla beats Lomachenko.

And Martin? well Hearn admits that he had to over pay Martin to get him to come over, an absolute fortune! so it's not him that was begging for the fight

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-admits-overpaying-martin-secure-ibf-title-joshua--123829

You have a link saying Martin "calling out" AJ after he was mandatory, cool.


I think you're the one who needs to leave this site. Come back when you learn about the sport, since the only person you follow or talk about is Anthony Joshua.

[Jax teller]

you're cherry picking again. Wlad wasn't ranked by ESPN. TBRB, or any of the sanctioning bodies, So you grab a wiki link saying he was #2 by Ring. Cool, even though 2 years of inactivity and a loss would have removed him from their rankings...but whatever, you have a wiki link!

Oh, Ring has historical archives of their rankings though:

Tyson Fury, Champion
Anthony Joshua
Deontay Wilder
Joseph Parker
Alexander Povetkin
Luis Ortiz
Kubrat Pulev
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Dillian Whyte
Dominic Breazeale
Jarrell Miller

Arum said Parker can beat AJ. Arum is Parkers promoter. Whats your point? I'm sure Hearn is going to say Crolla beats Lomachenko.

And Martin? well Hearn admits that he had to over pay Martin to get him to come over, an absolute fortune! so it's not him that was begging for the fight

https://www.boxingscene.com/hearn-admits-overpaying-martin-secure-ibf-title-joshua--123829

You have a link saying Martin "calling out" AJ after he was mandatory, cool.


I think you're the one who needs to leave this site. Come back when you learn about the sport, since the only person you follow or talk about is Anthony Joshua.

Did you even read the link about Martin it says he was giving AJ a chance before he was mando. Martin called out AJ (fact, it happened whether you like it or not) probably because he wanted a good payday, Hearn also saw this as a good oppurtunity that was worth paying for but they did not by any means head hunt Martin. Hearn was looking into Jennings and Takam at the time.

Wlad AJ fight was April 2017 Ring ratings at Dec 2016 BEFORE the fight:

Wladimir Klitschko
Deontay Wilder
Kubrat Pulev
Luis Ortiz
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Bermane Stiverne
David Haye
Andy Ruiz Jr.
Dillian Whyte

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th..._Ratings:_2016

Nice try using the ratings at Dec 2017 after AJ beat Klitschko with Klitschko retiring.

[Ake-Dawg]

Im sorry I got it wrong Wlad was Ring No. 2 behind Fury

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Joshua_vs._Wladimir_Klitschko

Martin did call AJ out.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/10172205/charles-martin-claims-anthony-joshua-has-been-on-his-radar-since-before-their-fight-was-sealed

Fury bet anyone Parker beats AJ

https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury/status/930770013681799169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E930770013681799169&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thesun.co.uk%2Fsport%2Fboxing%2F4919713%2Ftyson-fury-bet-joseph-parker-anthony-joshua%2F

Arum saying Parker can beat AJ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRPHgtr0OR8

But none of that's real right?

Do everyone on boxing scene a favour and disappear with your Wilder nut hugging agenda.

The interview you are using was from AFTER the fight was signed. Even still the stuff he is saying isn't a call out. Its says well I figured why wait to fight him as a mando.

And you are right, there were folks who thought so little of Joshua that they picked Parker. That still doesn't mean that Team Hearn didn't from THEIR perspective select the least dangerous unification fight and other "safe" fights.

Not everything is about Wilder. Some things are about applying common sense to what your eyes see.

Screw rankings and belts...tell me why Parker was a dangerous opponent for AJ based on what he does in the ring.