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  • sicko
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    #21
    Agree with Bob for once! Neither him nor Eddie have a positive image here in the US right now...can they change that perception? Of Course! Once they make the Wilder fight I think they will be fine. Big mistake not coming to the US sooner though!

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    • AdonisCreed
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      #22
      Originally posted by 5000boxing
      Wilder figured out the puzzle late... but he still put Fury on his back twice... Wilder did not go down twice, nor was he hurt.. Wilder won! And is top dog.. Fury didn't do enough to take the WBC strap away from Wilder. Showtime commentary brainwashed you bums into thinking Fury was kicking azz.. he was trying to survive and should have been penalized for constantly holding like a hoe. Lol. Arum is a racists bum.. still looking for a great white hype.. smh. I love all fighters regardless of color.. but damn, its so obvious why some hate Wilder! When we start rd 13.. Fury 2, will be asleep like bermaine stiverne 2. Wilder has figured u out.. its over Fury.
      Facts I don't judge people based on the color of their skin. I am prejudice against liars and thieves...... Oh and able bodied lazy people SMH if you don't have any handicaps your @$$ should do something wtf!! And in the famous words of Peter Griffin that's what grinds my gears lol haha
      Last edited by AdonisCreed; 01-22-2019, 10:24 PM.

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      • AdonisCreed
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        #23
        Originally posted by Mikedadon
        Well I mean yeah I guess in a way arum is right but joshua is popular enough in the UK where he still makes $20 million fighting nobodys, but its completley up to joshua does he want his career to look like Joe calzaghe or Lennox Lewis.
        Exactly right preach!!

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        • smfmikejohn
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          #24
          Fury cant be number one until he beats wilder...arum prob still trying to sue the PBC

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          • Kezzer
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            #25
            Maybe fury is more popular, but it also maybe just a short term thing if not followed up. But overall there is no doubt.

            Top6 wins by comparison.

            Tyson Fury.


            1. Klitschko
            2. Chisora
            3. Hammer
            4. Chisora (again)
            5. Johnson
            6. Cunningham

            ** wilder not included because technically was given as a draw. Would have been 2 on the list.

            When you get lower down your debating which is the best win for the wrong reasons..

            Anthony Joshua.

            1. Klitschko
            2. Parker
            3. Povetkin
            4. Whyte
            5. Takam
            6. Breazeale

            In the case above the top3 fighters were all considered top3 at time of the fight and you could argue the latter 3 are top10 now, at least top20 (in Whyte’s case maybe even higher).

            Resume’s speak higher than words.

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            • Corelone
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              #26
              Originally posted by sportbuddha
              Pretty much every respected coach thinks AJ is probably the number one, ludicrous to suggest he has zero respect in the boxing fraternity. Like all of us they want to see the big match ups happen, but to say no one rates him just proves you don’t pay attention to the people that actually know the sport. Hate him all you like, the ratings system and the belts mean he is number one - fact.
              I say hard core, you say respected coach and boxing fraternity. That's not the man on the street. AJ is a low level Brit TV celebrity in these parts.

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              • Corelone
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                #27
                Originally posted by Kezzer
                Maybe fury is more popular, but it also maybe just a short term thing if not followed up. But overall there is no doubt.

                Top6 wins by comparison.

                Tyson Fury.


                1. Klitschko
                2. Chisora
                3. Hammer
                4. Chisora (again)
                5. Johnson
                6. Cunningham

                ** wilder not included because technically was given as a draw. Would have been 2 on the list.

                When you get lower down your debating which is the best win for the wrong reasons..

                Anthony Joshua.

                1. Klitschko
                2. Parker
                3. Povetkin
                4. Whyte
                5. Takam
                6. Breazeale

                In the case above the top3 fighters were all considered top3 at time of the fight and you could argue the latter 3 are top10 now, at least top20 (in Whyte’s case maybe even higher).

                Resume’s speak higher than words.
                Fury beat Klitch in Germany and as we know now, it was no fluke. AJ in London almost got KOd by Klitch, that's hardly a good comparison. Parker won his vacant title on a home town decision vs Andy Ruiz. Povetkin was unmasked, and off the juice. Ranking isn't the whole story. The jump up in class, and the willingness to go get the money puts Fury on another level.

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                • 'b'
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by 5000boxing
                  Wilder figured out the puzzle late... but he still put Fury on his back twice... Wilder did not go down twice, nor was he hurt.. Wilder won! And is top dog.. Fury didn't do enough to take the WBC strap away from Wilder. Showtime commentary brainwashed you bums into thinking Fury was kicking azz.. he was trying to survive and should have been penalized for constantly holding like a hoe. Lol. Arum is a racists bum.. still looking for a great white hype.. smh. I love all fighters regardless of color.. but damn, its so obvious why some hate Wilder! When we start rd 13.. Fury 2, will be asleep like bermaine stiverne 2. Wilder has figured u out.. its over Fury.
                  ROFL you are clearly obsessed with race. Uncle Bob the *** favour white fighters? Haha! Bob hates all races that aren't his, his past comments are not hard to find.

                  He clearly hates whites and thinks he is above "inferior" blacks and mexicans. I doubt he has much love for Asians either after what he did to Pacquiao.

                  Arum is a ***ish supremacist from what I can gather. Not trying to start chit on here but how he gets away with some of his comments is amazing - he is a modern day slave trader and his language on letting the 'blacks and mexicans do the fighting while we collect the money from the outside' is further evidence. He really doesn't like the UFC and how 'white' it is either.

                  Arum is safe from criticism though because friends in high places, plus boxing media wouldn't want to get their press passes revoked by criticising master Arum or mentioning his past comments
                  Last edited by 'b'; 01-23-2019, 12:03 AM.

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                  • Mrbamladen
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BigStomps
                    You're entitled to your opinion but most people thought Fury won including myself.
                    And I paid no attention to what the Showtime announcers were saying.
                    I just scored each round individually and I had Fury winning 8 rounds out of the 12 but Wilder does get two extra points for the knockdowns but it still isn't enough for a win. That's my take on it.
                    You do realize that score would make it 113-113 Don't you???

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                    • BigStomps
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mrbamladen
                      You do realize that score would make it 113-113 Don't you???
                      Do you know math?? Do you know how to score a boxing fight??

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