Fury didn’t dominate the first third of the fight

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  • BIG GUNZ
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    #11
    Originally posted by chaosisme
    As long as fans keep defending these kinds of decisions, boxing will continue to be a joke. Stop trying to justify the draw.
    It’s just I see some outrageous scorecards on here though possibly being swayed by the Showtime commentary. No way did Wilder only win 2 or 3 rounds overall. He won at least 4 & at best 5.

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    • rolshans
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      #12
      In the first 4 rounds, which round(s) did you give Wilder other than round 2?

      Then maybe we can have an actual discussion.
      Last edited by rolshans; 12-02-2018, 07:40 PM.

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      • sunny31
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        #13
        Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
        I had it 7-5 but Wilder definitely didn’t do enough to win. It was either a Fury win or a draw. But I just disagree on those early rounds. Wilder was blocking most of the shots Fury was throwing in round 2.
        Wilder doesn't have a very good guard when he goes defensive, he stands square with his gloves up and take his eyes of the target and I felt because of that some of Fury's shots were getting through

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          #14
          According to Compubox-> Rounds 1,2,4,5,6,7,8,11 had punch differences of only 2 or less landed. Definitely flawed of course (I wouldn't want this scored like amateur boxing) but it shows how much wiggle room there is in scoring the bout. Fury was more efficient and technically sound but not everyone values these things in the same way.

          I gave 2 and 4 to Wilder plus the knockdowns. Legitimate case can be made for 1 and 5 as well.

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            #15
            Originally posted by BirdPerson
            I dont see what this really does. It's just one mans opinion that you're assuming should be biased in Wilder's favor. Foreman had Wilder winning, this doesn't say much either. Different people look at different things when scoring a fight. Maybe clearing up the standards would tighten up scoring a bit.

            I had it 114-112 Fury myself but I can really see the other side.
            Considering Mayweather always gives his peoples the edge that means EVERYTHING.

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            • boxinggod101
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              #16
              Yes he did. He lost like a round in the first 6. Wilder is trash. Power only...

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              • BIG GUNZ
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                #17
                Originally posted by rolshans
                In the first 4 rounds, which round(s) did you give Wilder other than round 2?

                Then maybe we can have an actual discussion.
                3 & 4 were pretty close but Fury probably won one of them or maybe both. They were difficult rounds to score where neither really clearly won them.

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                • Combat Talk Radio
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                  #18
                  Round 9, Wilder was getting outboxed, nailed a flash knockdown, proceeded to get outboxed some more.

                  Round 12, Fury got sparked, got up and outboxed Wilder the remainder.

                  At no time was Wilder NOT getting outboxed in some form.

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                  • Young Money
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by BirdPerson
                    I dont see what this really does. It's just one mans opinion that you're assuming should be biased in Wilder's favor. Foreman had Wilder winning, this doesn't say much either. Different people look at different things when scoring a fight. Maybe clearing up the standards would tighten up scoring a bit.

                    I had it 114-112 Fury myself but I can really see the other side.
                    Haha, are you daft?

                    It's not just one man's opinion – that would be asking you about the fight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Young Money
                      It's not just one man's opinion
                      One *boxers* opinion. Does that make it better. I could also just change it to boxing insider or boxing legend, whatever you want. It's still just one opinion.

                      There're tons of ex-fighters who give their own take on each fight, many of them great. I respect their opinions but its not gospel.

                      If Floyd really shows a bias usually then maybe it means something, I don't usually pay attention to how he in particular scores the fight.

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