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  • #11
    Remember you are going to have to throw punches in order to win or get a knockout Tyson. Playing a game of keep away will not win you this fight.

    He's right however. At some point, Wilder is going close the distance, find him and then start touching and catching him flush.

    When that happens all bets are off. Then the bout will turn into a firefight in which Fury cannot win. There's no way Tyson Fury can match the firepower of Deontay Wilder's. Eventually, Fury gets broken down and then knocked out.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by sapo13 View Post
      Yea but canelo was already in the ring with GGG before, this is wylders 1st time fighting fury and is talking about changing style i would have to agree with what mindgames said about it being dangerouse to change your style fighting a new opponent!! im pulling for wylder to win, but fury is just one of those naturally tough britts that can fight you drunk and out of shape!! but maybe the damage hes done from drinking and drugs will catch up to him in this fight, i thought fury was older but hes only 30. props to wylder for taking this risk!! this will be a scary message to jashua if wylder pulls it off!!
      This wouldn't be the first time a fighter switched up their usual fight plan to defeat a challenger. It's more about the fighters comfort level executing the plan. See Mayweather Cotto for an example.

      To be honest, throwing body shots isn't new to Wilder. He threw plenty versus Duhappas who is similarly sized but less skilled than Fury.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
        Wilders talking about changing style. Body attack? When you have to change your style in your biggest fight, you're in trouble.
        Hopkins changed his style when he fought trinidad and it paid off

        When its a fighter's biggest fight,they are likely facing their toughest opponent yet, and that opponent is naturally gonna be exceptional at certain things e.g. defence- head movement, speed, guard, then adjusting to that by hitting the body seems smart

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
          Wilders talking about changing style. Body attack? When you have to change your style in your biggest fight, you're in trouble.
          When you have a fighter in front of you that's taller or your same height, it's a lot more feasible to safely throw body shots. That's boxing 101.

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          • #15
            This is a one trick pony, he never TOOK the title because we all saw the big klit just freeze so exactly what else has he done to become this hero you all claim him to be? If the big klit did that against me I would the belt holder but thing is, Tony Joshua is the lineal Champion and has since defended the title/s a number of times which leaves the ****** diddycoy in nowhere’s vile doesn it?
            If he beats wilder (extremely slim chance because wilder won’t freeze) then he has a claim to fight Tony Joshua in a unification bout subject to fish face and Hearn jnr to become buddies.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
              Remember you are going to have to throw punches in order to win or get a knockout Tyson. Playing a game of keep away will not win you this fight.

              He's right however. At some point, Wilder is going close the distance, find him and then start touching and catching him flush.

              When that happens all bets are off. Then the bout will turn into a firefight in which Fury cannot win. There's no way Tyson Fury can match the firepower of Deontay Wilder's. Eventually, Fury gets broken down and then knocked out.
              He can't match the firepower of Wilder, as you say, but he's likely to be more accurate and he's got good ring IQ and awareness; unless you panic you can see Wilder's shots coming a mile away. I think people write off Fury's chances of catching Wilder with something heavy too quickly.

              Your assumption that it's inevitable that Wilder finds him and starts catching him flush and he's bound to just go down and get KO'd as a result is not that realistic imo.

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              • #17
                I’m surprised Wlad was able to go 50 rounds without getting windmilled to sleep a few times.

                “Klitschko asked me what was the best part of camp, I said ‘The Food’! They cooked it right in front of me, I couldn’t believe it. I’m from Doncaster where they’ve only just discovered fire. Klitschko patted me on the head and sent me home.” - Dave Allen
                Last edited by GlassJoey; 11-15-2018, 04:40 PM.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Ake-Dawg View Post
                  You're right. Just like Canelo was when he fought GGG last September.
                  So you're using a fight that Canelo drew and most people thought he lost as an example? Canelo could always box, had decent headmovement. Thats alot different from Wilder turning into Mike Mcallum.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by jas View Post
                    Hopkins changed his style when he fought trinidad and it paid off

                    When its a fighter's biggest fight,they are likely facing their toughest opponent yet, and that opponent is naturally gonna be exceptional at certain things e.g. defence- head movement, speed, guard, then adjusting to that by hitting the body seems smart
                    Its not easy to pull off. But Hopkins had height reach and weight advantages over Trinidad. Plus look at Bernard against Mercado and Allen, he showed he could box. Wilder becoming a stalking bodypuncher, when hes never showed a good body attack before and him having a low workrate, gonna be a tough ask.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                      When you have a fighter in front of you that's taller or your same height, it's a lot more feasible to safely throw body shots. That's boxing 101.
                      Yeah, but thats why its so hard to do late on in your career for your biggest fight. Wilder has never showed any ability to bodypunch, and hes got a very low workrate. I remember Haye convincing all the experts that he would change style for just one night vs Wlad. That hed be a Tyson type destroyer just one time and go for Wlads fragility. But when he got in there he sat back and tried to counterpunch as always. Wilder will do the same thing he always does come fight night, it just shows he knows hes going to have big problems with Furys style and range in this one.

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