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  • Zn1
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    #21
    Originally posted by Lion81
    This will be a circus.
    Zuffa Boxing is the future

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      #22
      Originally posted by Pigeons
      You're probably right but there's no rules on the street.
      No sh^t there's no rules on the street. I don't know why that matters. I'm just trying to say MMA is a more complete fighting style. I believe absolute no rules fighting would prove that. Hence the whole premise of a legit fight vs some sport.

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      • Lion81
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        #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I'm not saying its anything. I'm just saying I can see it happening in the cage under hybrid rules. Floyd was considering this with McConor. And Khabib is a much less sellable name. I think if this fight is gonna happen Floyd will need to bend more to make it worth as much money as he wants it to be worth.

        Thats just my opinion doe. I could see Floyd ultimately deciding to do it in the ring for less, but still a lot, of money. This isn't a 5M buy boxing or MMA hybrid rule PPV. I'd guess its not even a 3M buy boxing event. I think it could do 3M+ buys in the cage doe.

        And I still say the most likely outcome by a mile is the fight don't happen, but I'm just thinking about how this could or might play out if it were to play out.

        Gotcha. I will say this, if Floyd gets in the cage, hybrid or not I would seriously laugh my ass off and consider buying it.

        It would be so far removed from boxing and basically be nothing more than a circus event that I would feel inclined to check it out over the potential LMAO moments to be had.

        If it's in the ring, I won't *** with it. If it's in the ring, I want him in there against a live body, or else *** off.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Lion81
          Gotcha. I will say this, if Floyd gets in the cage, hybrid or not I would seriously laugh my ass off and consider buying it.

          It would be so far removed from boxing and basically be nothing more than a circus event that I would feel inclined to check it out over the potential LMAO moments to be had.
          Thats why I think it'd do better numbers cuz people won't believe that sh^t & wanna see wtf this crazy sh^t is.

          You'll get MMA dorks saying they won't buy it I'm sure, but just like with a lot of boxing dorks did with Floyd vs McConor it'll almost be too big of a thing for a lot of them to avoid it.

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            #25
            If this does get made in the UFC, there should be no stipulations about what can and cannot be done, these guys are making money fighting in the UFC, UFC rules should apply.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              No sh^t there's no rules on the street. I don't know why that matters. I'm just trying to say MMA is a more complete fighting style. I believe absolute no rules fighting would prove that. Hence the whole premise of a legit fight vs some sport.

              MMA incorporates more disciplines but it is by no means a no-rules fight.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Michael1437
                If this does get made in the UFC, there should be no stipulations about what can and cannot be done, these guys are making money fighting in the UFC, UFC rules should apply.
                That'd be like letting a poodle fight a pitbull. For any boxer in the cage. Look at what happened to James Toney (although I've heard he didn't take it seriously). It takes years to learn all the skills & tactics one needs for MMA.

                At HW it'd probably be more competitive cuz lotsa MMA HW's are almost boxers with no shoes & more grappling while standing on the way they fight.

                Boxers aren't trained to compete in MMA. It'll just be a MMA guy murdering a boxer. Meanwhile plenty of MMA guys got boxing matches on their record & are undefeated to this day.

                I mean a girl MMA fighter beat a 2x title challenger in her pro debut 11 mos after she last had a title shot.
                http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/534197

                And Heather Hardy went into MMA as a twenty something & 0 boxer & she's caught an L already.

                You kinda gotta handicap it to make it interesting or its just about watching Floyd get his ass beat. Although granted if you sold the event as just Floyd getting his ass beat it might do more than Floyd vs Manny in buys in fairness. I feel like Floyd wouldn't be down for that doe.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Pigeons
                  MMA incorporates more disciplines but it is by no means a no-rules fight.
                  I didn't say it was.

                  My premise is a no rules fight between 100 boxers & 100 mixed martial artists = the boxers are catching more L's.

                  MMA is a more complete fighting style.

                  This is what I said. No more, no less.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Eff Pandas
                    I didn't say it was.

                    My premise is a no rules fight between 100 boxers & 100 mixed martial artists = the boxers are catching more L's.

                    MMA is a more complete fighting style.

                    This is what I said. No more, no less.

                    Bare knuckle, right? Are MMA fighters anxious to wrestle on concrete?

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Zn1
                      Zuffa Boxing is the future


                      The UFC is going to get marginalized as more and more companies will pop up. Mixed Martial Arts can definitely get fragmented.

                      Just like in boxing. It used to be the WBC and WBA for sanctioning bodies. Now it's the WBO, IBF, IBO and who knows what else. Proliferation of promoters and sanctioning belts offer a strong clue as to what can happen if the UFC tries to *** with boxing.

                      All any company has to do is find a young prospect and pay him millions for his loyalty. Sign a few other fighters, give your stable a name, the Warriors Fighting League (WFL) or something like that, and so it begins. Eventually one will be successful. Then you'll have Bellator, UFC and WFL, etc.

                      It works both ways. Bellator and UFC won't be the only game in town if profits keep going up. Barriers to entry aren't that difficult, so long as you have a bank account.

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