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  • GlassJoey
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    #11
    Wilder looked like absolute trash except for the knockdown, knockout and when he hung on heroically vs Ortiz. If judges saw him winning a round without the KD then they should be banned from boxing

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    • Holler
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      #12
      Originally posted by Zn1
      vs Ortiz
      Glenn Feldman 85-84 | Kevin Morgan 85-84 | Carlos Ortiz Jr 85-84

      vs Washington
      Juan Carlos Pelayo 38-38 | Keith Hughes 39-37 | Mike Ross 38-38

      vs Szpilka
      Guido Cavalleri 77-75 | Pasquale Procopio 78-74 | Waleska Roldan 78-74

      vs Molina
      Irwin Deutsch 90-77 | Keith Hughes 89-78 | Juan Carlos Pelayo 89-78
      That's pretty damning.

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      • Straightener
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        #13
        Originally posted by Marchegiano
        That's because even in America Tyson Fury is more well received. The judges are already on his side, they are his fans. Good luck finding someone who has dedicated quite a lot of their life to the sports aspect of boxing as seeing Wilder as anything but a caveman.

        I mean from Wilder's own mouth he calls himself a gladiator and talks about it being an ancient sport. Caveman and gladiator are two words to describe the same kind of fighter, and it ain't a points fighter they're talking about. Wilder has less boxing in his game then most of the guys you think of as sluggers. Tyson, Frazier, even Foreman later on, all of them could box pretty good and used that to improve their punching game. Wilder's only real analog is Marciano and then there's that massive size and skincolor difference. I'm not saying racism held Wilder back just that racism did help Marciano's career. So since you can't expect the panthers to force the judges and because the judges are by nature of their job in favor of points fighting I just don't see why you'd expect anything but judging in favor of Fury.


        Cavemanism is not in line, at all, with the sport that came of Mendoza's obsession with defense, sales, and money. People who look up to the modern sport more than the ancient martial art don't have any respect for what Wilder does. He's not going to win on points unless by some crazy turn of events he actually does very clearly outpoint Fury...which...c'mon, that **** ain't happening. If it does then even I have very seriously underrated Wilder's boxing ability. I just don't think there's a chance even if it's just a little bit close Wilder will get any form of win or even draw. He will lose unless he KOs Fury or absolutely shuts Fury down like Tyson did Wlad. So Fury doesn't need to worry about judges. He fights for judges and Wilder does not.
        Don’t forget fury is a bible basher

        You folks love a bit of that

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        • Amber_TKO
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          #14
          Of course Frank Warren ain't concerned about the judges because he knows that this fight won't go past the mid-rounds. I still don't get why they've rushed Fury into this fight? Maybe in 12 months time he would've had a shot, in December it's a case of when is Deontay gonna KO him.

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          • Robbie Barrett
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            #15
            Originally posted by Marchegiano
            That's because even in America Tyson Fury is more well received. The judges are already on his side, they are his fans. Good luck finding someone who has dedicated quite a lot of their life to the sports aspect of boxing as seeing Wilder as anything but a caveman.

            I mean from Wilder's own mouth he calls himself a gladiator and talks about it being an ancient sport. Caveman and gladiator are two words to describe the same kind of fighter, and it ain't a points fighter they're talking about. Wilder has less boxing in his game then most of the guys you think of as sluggers. Tyson, Frazier, even Foreman later on, all of them could box pretty good and used that to improve their punching game. Wilder's only real analog is Marciano and then there's that massive size and skincolor difference. I'm not saying racism held Wilder back just that racism did help Marciano's career. So since you can't expect the panthers to force the judges and because the judges are by nature of their job in favor of points fighting I just don't see why you'd expect anything but judging in favor of Fury.


            Cavemanism is not in line, at all, with the sport that came of Mendoza's obsession with defense, sales, and money. People who look up to the modern sport more than the ancient martial art don't have any respect for what Wilder does. He's not going to win on points unless by some crazy turn of events he actually does very clearly outpoint Fury...which...c'mon, that **** ain't happening. If it does then even I have very seriously underrated Wilder's boxing ability. I just don't think there's a chance even if it's just a little bit close Wilder will get any form of win or even draw. He will lose unless he KOs Fury or absolutely shuts Fury down like Tyson did Wlad. So Fury doesn't need to worry about judges. He fights for judges and Wilder does not.
            Great prediction there pal.

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            • DuckAdonis
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              #16
              We all know Wilder got his ass whooped...better judges this time Fish Eyes! Don't let uncle Al set you up now!

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              • Marchegiano
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                #17
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                Great prediction there pal.
                I don't see anything wrong with it. I reckon'd Wilder's lucky to get a draw shy of the KO and his ass was.

                Split draw at that wasn't it? Horseshoe up his ass I reckon.

                Speaking of bad predictions, aren't you supposed to go to ESB or some ****?

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                • daggum
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                  #18
                  they say the thing every fight. we all know the lead promoter picks and pays the judges and this inherently creates conflict of interest. they know how it works yet they refuse to call it out probably because when its their turn they want the same advantages.

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                  • Jubei
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                    #19
                    Warren is as incapable as it gets as a promoter, all his A side fighters are delivered on a silver platter to get robbed in enemy territory.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Zn1
                      vs Ortiz
                      Glenn Feldman 85-84 | Kevin Morgan 85-84 | Carlos Ortiz Jr 85-84

                      vs Washington
                      Juan Carlos Pelayo 38-38 | Keith Hughes 39-37 | Mike Ross 38-38

                      vs Szpilka
                      Guido Cavalleri 77-75 | Pasquale Procopio 78-74 | Waleska Roldan 78-74

                      vs Molina
                      Irwin Deutsch 90-77 | Keith Hughes 89-78 | Juan Carlos Pelayo 89-78
                      I don’t anyone getting a decision against Wilder in America whilst he holds that WBC belt. There is no way he should be ahead on all those fights listed. It seems every time he scores a KD that gives the judges excuse to give him 3/4 rounds.

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