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He probably would've had he fought them when Lewis did though, Rahman was on point vs Lewis in the first fight, and McCall was an unstoppable force for his entire career (71 fights) ... plus both could definitely box, something Wilder hasn't shown much of yet in his 40 bouts.Comment
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Rahman had already been stopped twice by Tua and knocked out the ring by Maskaev 2 years earlier as well as a close MD to Obed Sullivan. Tua that same year also barely beat Jeff Wooden by MD.
McCall lost at the world level most of the time he stepped up and had losses against Mike Hunt and Sedereck Fields, irrelevant names nobody remembers.
Wilder boxed Stiverne's head off, he's boxed pretty well most of his fights including Ortiz, if he was as bad as you think he was he'd have lost by now. It's one thing to say American boxing used to be better but that is not the case for European boxing. The European heavyweights are 10x better than the old ones like Maskaev, Golota, etc. that were very successful during that time. Euro boxing in general is better because they were once banned due to the Soviet Union, Loma, Gvozdyk, Kovalev, Usyk, Beterbiev, Glazkov, Szpilka, Pulev, Kownacki etc.Last edited by Cutthroat; 09-01-2018, 10:03 PM.Comment
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messing fury got his as s handed to him by 25 stone pin similar to the one wilder went the distance with called McDermott got near put to sleep by a crap cruiserweight Cunningham and even near knocked himself out once. that awful dull spar v klitschko is all he's got no one boxed that night was the worse heavyweight fight in history then pulled every trick in the book to avoid the rematch coz he new no one could be that sh it twiceComment
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Fury got beat up by McDermott a 30 stone butcher from Yorkshire who only boxed part time everyone knows he lost that fight and then Cunningham a cruiserweight floored him bad yes Rahman put him asleep in Africa with altitude lack of training and his mouth wide open silly mistake rematch told all just like with.mcall you forget his wins v top fighters who would cream hyped up wilder like.. tua ..tyson .
.holyfeild ..Mercer.. Morrison .. vitalie klitschko ...Bruno.. Ruddock to name a few these boys were old school tough not the flops you see today on socia media 24/7 world's a weaker placeComment
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Tua arguably lost to journeyman Jeff Wooden 2 years before fighting Lewis.
Mercer arguably lost to Marion Wilson before he fought Holyfield & Lewis.
Tyson had already lost to Douglas and failed to knock out numerous opponents that had previously been knocked out.
Holyfield arguably lost to 5'5 cruiserweight Qawi, by '94 gassed badly and lost to Michael Moorer, by 2001 he was losing to John Ruiz.
Ruddock drew against Phil Brown, stopped by David Jaco, and barely beat Mike Weaver with his 12 losses
You can say the same about any fighter. Difference is when it comes to this day and age people hold heavies to these ridiculous standards that their peers before them could not even meet and they get called garbage.
Wilder, Fury, AJ have yet to taste defeat even against contenders which is what many ATG fighters failed to do. ATG fighters used to lose to journeymen, it's not like all their losses came purely from other champions, the fact of the matter is these men are currently undefeated.Last edited by Cutthroat; 09-04-2018, 07:26 PM.Comment
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you got a point but hagler lost to inferior fighters Ali sugar ray robinson 19 defeats he was the best of all time undefeated records dosent mean there great fighters dymtri salita was 31 0 when he got put to sleep by amir Khan in a minute for ffs or lacey baddest man on the planet then near died stepping up or naz hamed classed as one of the best ever before he faced a proper fighter in barrera were he got schooled the undefeated hype train plays bull sh it on people's minds aj fury or wilder are the best of a really bad bunch and within few years none will still be undefeatedComment
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I think his stamina in the Whyte fight was a pretty damning indictment of his preparation, he was gassed by the halfway point and was getting easily outworked by Whyte, who's not exactly the model of a well-honed athlete himself. I was dreadfully disappointed in him, and honestly I'm not sure if he trained for that fight at all.Comment
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Agreed but the problem Parker has is he can't fight with his old aggressive style for long periods only spurts because of the poor defence Lewis mentioned.
Fact is when Parker fights that way his lack of defence leaves him wide open to be countered. If you watch the Takam and Ruiz fights that's exactly what happens. He leads then gets countered again and again and so Parker resorts to fighting on the back foot to look for some respite from being tagged every time he lets his hands go.
Parker simply doesn't have the power to be a stand and trade shots kind of fighter at least not at this level. He looked good doing so vs journeymen and washed up fighters but at world class level that style would see him knocked out without the defensive skills to go with it.
Parker is currently caught between 2 styles and the new style he's trying to adopt is just as flawed. He moves incorrectly, he backs up in straight lines as Lewis said which just puts him on the ropes right in front of his opponent. When he does move laterally he's too far away to counter which just means his opponent can keep pressing forward.
When Parker slips a shot he's never in a position to counter punch and boxing off the back foot without countering is just running away trying to not get hit and you can't score/land punches that way. All opponents eventually learn you have no offensive ability on the back foot and just walk you down knowing as long as they keep pushing you back nothing will be coming back.
Disagree with Lewis in regards to changing trainers. Barry has too close a relationship with Parker, he lives with his family like an adopted son. Barry isn't the right person for Parker now. Just like Lewis had to leave Correa for Steward, Parker now needs to get out and find a trainer that can take him to the next level because Barry isn't that man. Doesn't mean he can't keep Barry in the team but he shouldn't be the head trainer.Comment
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i think yo being a bit hard on parker,parker was seriously concussed by the headclash in 2nd round that was scored as a knockdown for whyte,this was a big reason why parker was outworked in midd rounds,he should of been given 5 mins to recover, the scorecards showed that if the 2nd round had been given to parker which parker was winning at the time the fight would of been a draw, and whyte was warned 5 times by the ref for all his dirty tactics in the fight without a point been taken away, parkers team were very close to appealing this fight until finally just deciding to move on, parker only 26 hes not finished he will be backComment
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