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    The first ever Muhammad Ali Trophy was handed to Oleksandr Usyk after the Ukrainian fighter belted fellow unbeaten Murat Gassiev in the finals of the cruiserweight version of the World Boxing Super Series on July 21 in Moscow, Russia.
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  • #2
    Usyk is in a nice position with Bellew, Lebedev, Ward, and the WBSS season 2 winner out there as potential opponents at cruiserweight.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
      Usyk is in a nice position with Bellew, Lebedev, Ward, and the WBSS season 2 winner out there as potential opponents at cruiserweight.
      All those fights combined won't give him the money that one single fight against Joshua. I think that's Usyk's path to fame and fortune: Bellew and then hopefully AJ.

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      • #4
        I think he should defend his four titles for a year and then move up. Bellew in November, back to Russia for Lebedev, maybe a fight in NYC to help build his US brand and then the winner of the next cruiserweight tournament to close out 2019 and then in 2020 there should be a unified heavyweight champion with all four belts.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
          All those fights combined won't give him the money that one single fight against Joshua. I think that's Usyk's path to fame and fortune: Bellew and then hopefully AJ.
          I'd disagree, especially with what seems to be the case with the Joshua pie. Maybe Eddie Hearn is just being a douche, but it's pretty clear that Anthony Joshua isn't fighting anyone for less than $25m at this point, and the biggest event that could be fathomed in the UK can clear $45m max.

          Hearn could try and simply syphon a big chunk of that DAZN money, but Usyk doesn't bring much US money/interest with him otherwise, and his profile (even in the UK) isn't one to expect a maxing out on the range.

          Tony Bellew isn't Anthony Joshua, but he's got a strong profile in the UK and there's money with Bellew. Usyk is the undisputed champion and should be respected, but there needs to be some give on the deal.

          50/50 share on a Sky Box Office/DAZN event from Goodison Park (the best chance to max out the take on the live event, as I doubt that going to Principality or Wembley again this year would still through) almost definitely puts more money into Usyk's pocket than a likely 80/20 or worse Joshua split would.

          Beyond that, don't sleep on the take for a Ward fight either; Ward left as the #1 p4p fighter on the planet (who started to have big money backing him), had a good little part in Creed, continues to get exposure on ESPN, is basically the face of a media push to launch a new show and channel, and is seemingly for an even bigger role (if not a feature role) in Creed 2.

          Regardless of how you want to look at it, $8m-$10m is likely what it'll take to match the offer for a Joshua fight.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            All those fights combined won't give him the money that one single fight against Joshua. I think that's Usyk's path to fame and fortune: Bellew and then hopefully AJ.
            How much would a single fight vs Joshua give him?


            I do agree he should move up he can easily boss the HW division

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              All those fights combined won't give him the money that one single fight against Joshua. I think that's Usyk's path to fame and fortune: Bellew and then hopefully AJ.

              Too small for AJ. Pointless fight.

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              • #8
                Great wins for Usyk, now top 5 PFP with beating all of those guys in their prime in their home countries. Better resume now than Loma, Usyk has a bright future ahead of him

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
                  Too small for AJ. Pointless fight.
                  he's only an inch shorter than whyte and parker. size will be a factor however he can still mix it with AJ IMO.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    I'd disagree, especially with what seems to be the case with the Joshua pie. Maybe Eddie Hearn is just being a douche, but it's pretty clear that Anthony Joshua isn't fighting anyone for less than $25m at this point, and the biggest event that could be fathomed in the UK can clear $45m max.

                    Hearn could try and simply syphon a big chunk of that DAZN money, but Usyk doesn't bring much US money/interest with him otherwise, and his profile (even in the UK) isn't one to expect a maxing out on the range.

                    Tony Bellew isn't Anthony Joshua, but he's got a strong profile in the UK and there's money with Bellew. Usyk is the undisputed champion and should be respected, but there needs to be some give on the deal.

                    50/50 share on a Sky Box Office/DAZN event from Goodison Park (the best chance to max out the take on the live event, as I doubt that going to Principality or Wembley again this year would still through) almost definitely puts more money into Usyk's pocket than a likely 80/20 or worse Joshua split would.

                    Beyond that, don't sleep on the take for a Ward fight either; Ward left as the #1 p4p fighter on the planet (who started to have big money backing him), had a good little part in Creed, continues to get exposure on ESPN, is basically the face of a media push to launch a new show and channel, and is seemingly for an even bigger role (if not a feature role) in Creed 2.

                    Regardless of how you want to look at it, $8m-$10m is likely what it'll take to match the offer for a Joshua fight.
                    Hearn recently said in the next week or 2 he'll be announcing the signing of a unified champion, Usyk seems the most likely.

                    Bellew would be a good start to build Usyk's popularity for a Joshua fight. Depending on how quickly Usyk wants to fight Joshua, Hearn has a fair few options for Usyk to build it into a big money fight.

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