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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Eleider Alvarez: I Have No Doubt - I'll Beat Kovalev For WBO Title

    It's been several years, but Eleider "Storm" Alvarez (23-0, 11 KOs) is finally getting his crack at a world title, when he takes on WBO light heavyweight world champion Sergey "Krusher" Kovalev (32-2-1, 28 KOs) at the Etess Arena in the brand new Hard Rock Hotel & Casino Atlantic City.
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    Spent all your step aside money?

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    • Mammoth
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      This one is gonna be good....

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      • thekenneth
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        If Kovalev wins which he will be a decent favourite, this will be BY FAR his biggest win. and i don't count the "two wins vs andre ward" I actually had ward ahead at the time of the stoppage. Where others had it a shutout for kovalev

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        • Boxing Logic
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          #5
          Originally posted by thekenneth
          If Kovalev wins which he will be a decent favourite, this will be BY FAR his biggest win. and i don't count the "two wins vs andre ward" I actually had ward ahead at the time of the stoppage. Where others had it a shutout for kovalev
          Very few boxers have good wins anymore because no one fights each other. You wont count Kovalev beating Ward, fine let's make it fair and not count Ward's "wins" over Kovalev either, who is Ward's best win then? Past prime Kessler and Abraham? Slow Froch who Andre Dirrell arguably beat before Ward?

          Heck, what's Floyd's best PRIME undrained win where the opponent was at their natural weight? He doesn't have a single one either! Everyone says Corrales but Corrales had the fever all week and was a ghost of himself in the ring.

          There are only a few boxers in the sport currently with top wins. Lomachenko, Chocolatito, and Sor Rungvisai have the most, then Usyk, Gassiev, and GGG are close behind them. Badou Jack has consistently fought the best guys at 168 so I respect him for that but there were no top guys in that division so he still doesn't have a top win. Other than that and a few more guys at the smaller weights I'm not that familiar with, there are barely any boxers left with any top wins at all. Maybe Keith Thurman over Porter and DSG but I don't think Porter or DSG are that good either. Leo Santa Cruz beat Frampton and Mares but he ducked the actual top guys around his weight at that time, Rigo and Donaire, and so did his two best wins, Mares and Frampton (although I believe it wasn't up to Mares).

          So it's just how boxing is right now. it sucks. Kovalev wanted to fight Stevenson, Beterbiev, and Ward all in his prime. Instead he got old BHop and Pascal, and had to wait so long that he got bored with boxing and started partying and smoking and drinking and not training as much apparently, and that's when the moles in Kovalev's camp told Ward what was happening and probably HBO as well and only then did HBO push for the fight because they saw an opportunity for Ward to catch Kovalev at his worst moment while getting up there in age as well so that they could sell Ward as a PPV star if he beat "the Krusher" even though they really knew he wasn't the same Krusher anymore, but they were banking on the fact the public wouldn't know any better so they would think what Ward did was amazing, when really it was a set up. But it didn't turn out how they planned because past prime drunk Kovalev was still too much for Ward to handle without a lot of help from his friends.

          I hope the sport changes, but until it does, using the "he hasn't beaten a top guy so he's not good" argument is pretty unfair. You can say he hasn't beaten a top guy so he doesn't deserve to be ranked higher P4P in terms of resume than guys who have, but I wouldn't go farther than that. It's also very important to separate the guys who dont have good wins because they were ducked, and the guys who dont have good wins because THEY ducked. That's the biggest difference in the sport, that's the difference between great champions and frauds.

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          • Tricky-Pablo
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            #6
            It's easy to say that before the fight, Alvarez goes to the distance with Pascal that Kovalev KO twice!! So we'll see!

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            • BigZ44
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              Originally posted by thekenneth
              If Kovalev wins which he will be a decent favourite, this will be BY FAR his biggest win. and i don't count the "two wins vs andre ward" I actually had ward ahead at the time of the stoppage. Where others had it a shutout for kovalev
              Pascal 1, Hopkins and maybe even Cleverly were better wins

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              • iNixus
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                #8
                Originally posted by Tricky-Pablo
                It's easy to say that before the fight, Alvarez goes to the distance with Pascal that Kovalev KO twice!! So we'll see!
                yeah bt he dominated Pascal same way kovalev did. Alvarez dont hit as hard as Kov and Pascal have a granite chin so...

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                • thekenneth
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BigZ44
                  Pascal 1, Hopkins and maybe even Cleverly were better wins

                  Strongly Disagree. Seeing how Alvarez beat Pascal soundly.
                  and Cleverly lol really, that's like a welterweight of today beating the current state of Malignaggi (only far worse)

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                  • BigZ44
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by thekenneth
                    Strongly Disagree. Seeing how Alvarez beat Pascal soundly.
                    and Cleverly lol really, that's like a welterweight of today beating the current state of Malignaggi (only far worse)
                    The Pascal that fought Alvarez was a completely different guy than the one that Kovalev ruined, no doubt in my mind that version beats Alvarez. Cleverly I'm not sure, could go either way. But Alvarez has certainly looked less than spectacular against mediocre opposition

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