If you are OK with Vanes v GG, you were ok with Wilder v Arreola.

[Redd Foxx]

I'm fine with Vanes. Not the best match, but the guy is competent and will come to fight. His losses were competitive fights against very talented guys. He's not a club level fighter like O Sullivan.

The thing about this board is that people are all cheerleaders. They don't have any interest in consistency or integrity. They just want to be free PR bots for their heroes. I understood why Wilder fought Arreola. It was to keep busy and keep the money coming in. Wasn't a great fight but it was what you might expect on short notice. I don't expect GG to throw away the date after so much prep has been put into this, by himself and so many people that are working with him.

[1hourRun]

NO! I'm tired of this fraud 'Triple-Duck' beating on smaller fighters coming up in weight, Chris 'Nightmare' Arreola was a true HW.

[Bravado]

GGG is a guy who is really talented and i often get upset he wasn't boxing 18 years ago because its such a great waste of talent and ability. He was too good to have wasted his career like this but the same issue i have with Abel i have with Hearn. Its easy to get wrapped up in a boxers career and herald them as champion as well as a person to be worshiped.

I remember the swagger Iverson had. The flare of Barry Sanders. The all around brutish ability of LeBron and Shaq, yet they were all flawed and did certain things wrong and needed to be respected for their skill as well as reprimanded for their mishaps. Hearn doesn't wanna let AJ fight Wilder because the money train can dry up. Abel is the same way. These guys don't respect their careers as fighters they just respect them as bankrolls. They treat their mega fights as lottery tickets to spend on exploits instead of the fight that would help keep Boxing afloat.

Andrade might be the best kept secret in boxing or overrated. Go fight somebody. I get why fans don't wanna see their fighters lose, it opens the door for the way they feel about themselves to be torn open and bare for people to see, but at what point do you acknowledge someone has to stop or step up?

[.!WAR MIKEY!.]

NO! I'm tired of this fraud 'Triple-Duck' beating on smaller fighters coming up in weight, Chris 'Nightmare' Arreola was a true HW.

[N/A]

I'm fine with Vanes. Not the best match, but the guy is competent and will come to fight. His losses were competitive fights against very talented guys. He's not a club level fighter like O Sullivan.

The thing about this board is that people are all cheerleaders. They don't have any interest in consistency or integrity. They just want to be free PR bots for their heroes. I understood why Wilder fought Arreola. It was to keep busy and keep the money coming in. Wasn't a great fight but it was what you might expect on short notice. I don't expect GG to throw away the date after so much prep has been put into this, by himself and so many people that are working with him.

I had no problem with Wilder vs Arreola and I have no problem with GGG vs Vanes if the IBF will sanction it.

But if GGG vacates the IBF, I will lose a little respect for him because what I admired about him the most was his desire to become undisputed champion.

[satiev1]

Comparing vanes to chris aerolla in terms of skills just lol. You gone full ****** boy.

[R_Walken]

Comparing vanes to chris aerolla in terms of skills just lol. You gone full ****** boy.

How is Vanes not skilled

He’s a former Olympian and only lost to Lara,Charlo and Andrade

And if Andrade didn’t move up that’s 3/4 of the best fighters at 154 there’s no shame in that

[Illmatic94]

This Vanes mismatch will be honorable if GGG offers to meet him at a catchweight. Why drag the guy up to 160 while Golovkin once again makes zero sacrifices. 157 should be it. Meet halfway. The guy is not a MW and doesn't belong there.

[BillyBoxing]

NO! I'm tired of this fraud 'Triple-Duck' beating on smaller fighters coming up in weight, Chris 'Nightmare' Arreola was a true HW.

Arreola was a true HW agreed but he true bum next to Vanes.

Arreola never was competitive with the elite of his own division, Vanes was, sure competitive at 154...

Sloppy fight but hey that's a late replacement.

[animelive]

Many people would rather pretend to be ****** for internet points but anyone looking at it logically knows who the real blame lies with. You CANNOT expect professional fighters to show up on short notice. You cannot expect boxers to give up a big pay day. They are human, and the decisions they take would mirror the decisions of most of the people in this forum if they are put in the same situation.