Comments Thread For: Spence, Crawford, Thurman - CompuBox Ranks The Best at 147

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

The welterweight division is arguably the deepest in boxing today. CompuBox ranks the top dogs at 147 lbs in 10 categories. Errol Spence ranks #1 due to his offensive output and accuracy. Terence Crawford, who makes his welterweight debut at welterweight in April vs. Jeff Horn, is the best defender.
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[Michael1437]

Too bad they didn't take level of opposition into consideration. I wonder how much that would have changed things, I mean if you fight nobodies, your numbers should be high, but if you are constantly fighting the best, your numbers aren't going to look as good.

[Dodger07]

I'm surprised shawn only throws 51 punches per round tbh same amount as keith and danny. I thought his punch output was similar to spence's

[Eff Pandas]

Even the people who hate compubox are like well they got Horn ranked right.

[McNulty]

Compubox is garbage.

[aboutfkntime]

Too bad they didn't take level of opposition into consideration. I wonder how much that would have changed things, I mean if you fight nobodies, your numbers should be high, but if you are constantly fighting the best, your numbers aren't going to look as good.

yea, true

also, who cares what your batting average is at the start of your career..... when you have put in 10 years at the top level, then those stats may count for something

Crawford has never fought at welter..... and Horn only has one real fight, against Manny

how can they compare welterweight averages with Crawford?

[yoshik]

Too bad they didn't take level of opposition into consideration. I wonder how much that would have changed things, I mean if you fight nobodies, your numbers should be high, but if you are constantly fighting the best, your numbers aren't going to look as good.

Well, they would then have to consider number of years in the sport, and Pac Man would own that in terms of competition with Horn dead last. This is a fair assessment and at least an objective way to try and score them. IMHO Thurman and Garcia suck BTW.

[yoshik]

yea, true

also, who cares what your batting average is at the start of your career..... when you have put in 10 years at the top level, then those stats may count for something

Crawford has never fought at welter..... and Horn only has one real fight, against Manny

how can they compare welterweight averages with Crawford?

Crawford will carry his ratings into WW. That's the linear thinking. I see all of Buds numbers dropping once he's in as WW. His "learning curve" will improve the totals or not moving forward.

[Citizen Koba]

Weellll. Aside from the fact that comp level isn't taken into account and that Bud isn't yet really a Welter - and - assuming that you find Compubox a useful resource but understand it's limitations there is one interesting metric that can be gleaned.

Going out on a limb here I'm gonna claim that the closest statistical representation of the phrase 'hit and not get hit' is the ratio: Punches landed (rnd)/Opponents punches landed(rnd). Other metrics such as CNCT % Thrown/Rnd and even +/- are all but meaningless in determining overall who is a 'better' fighter although they can tell a story of their own..

So. Who is better? Who has the highest CNCT/Opp CNCT score?

Drumroll please...

Yeah. Turns out Spence and Bud are almost exactly perfectly matched at the top, each landing (on average) 2.41 punches for each punch landed by their opponents. Sorry folks. It's a tie. These guys need to mix it up in the ring.

[Shadoww702]

How the heck is Crawford rankedb#2 when hes never even fought at this weight before???