Comments Thread For: Thurman: Joshua is Not Yet Ready For Wilder, Needs More Time

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WBC, WBA welterweight champion Keith Thurman does not believe WBA, IBO, IBF heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua (20-0, 20 KOs) is ready for a unification with WBC champion Deontay Wilder (39-0, 38 KOs). Thurman has no problem with Joshua's team holding off on making the unification. Joshua is on a path to a potential unification with WBO champion Joseph Parker (24-0, 18 KOs) on a date in March or April.
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[Pigeons]

Joshua will never be ready for Wilder.

[daggum]

idiots making comments and spreading misinformation. wilder is the one who killed the fight with his demands so he obviously wasn't ready. also just look at their records. one guy hasnt fought a soul. the other guy has fought several top 10 fighters. one guy falls over while trying to throw punches and the other doesnt. maybe fighters like thurman are susceptible to misinformation and he actually thinks wilder wants the fight or hes just lying to protect one of his own pbc fighters.

[Thraxox]

Like you against Spence right?

[daggum]

Like you against Spence right?

2019!!!!! by then thurman is hoping spence cant make the weight. this guy got a little taste of the floyd money life and he immediately turned.

[Boxing Logic]

I used to be a Thurman fan but he is losing me. He's turning into Floyd with all this talk about marinating fights. They are both heavychamp "champions" and have been for for 2-3 years now. Thurman keeps pushing this same bs narrative that every fighter can only ever have one big fight in their careers, so therefore that one fight must be marinated as long as possible and maximized for every cent its worth. This is a total lie. In reality, good fights should happen immediately, and then the winner will be a bigger star, making their next fights much bigger, and creating more superfights in the future with other opponents who do the exact same thing. Good fights create MORE big fights, not less. Wtf is Thurman smoking?

For instance, why is Thurman acting like Spence is going to be his one and only superfight, and that therefore it has to be marinated for years? That's a total lie, because we already know that whoever wins that fight will be in line for an even bigger fight against Crawford. And then if anyone but Spence comes out of that mini-tournament, they will have big fights against Brook at a catchweight, or Amir Khan, in the UK, plus potentially whoever emerges at 154. Jermell Charlo could be a star by then. Or, a star could emerge from the 140 class. Prograis could be a star in the future. Plus, there are tons of welterweight prospects coming along, just like Spence was 3-4 years ago, who just like Spence, will represent a big fight in 3-4 years time.

So why is Thurman acting like there is only one superfight out there for him when we can already name 5+ right off the bat with guys who are currently established, and way more will surely come along over the next five years? I didn't even mention the Porter or DSG rematches which would also be big paydays for Thurman if he beats Spence and Crawford.

And the same for Wilder-Joshua. Whoever wins that will have an even bigger fight against Fury. Plus there can be rematches and trilogies for each of those fights. Plus more guys will emerge. So why does Thurman keep pushing this bull**** narrative like Floyd did? It makes it sound like Thurman is expecting to take a career-ending beating against Spence, because that is the only scenario in which Spencewould turn out to be the only remaining big fight of his career. And that seems like a total loser's mentality to me because Thurman has the skills to be competitive in that fight. And yet he's acting like fighting Spence is the same as donating one of his kidneys, so therefore he has to wait to get the most money possible for it, even if it means wasting away 2-3 years of his prime, because you can only donate a kidney once in your life, so you better maximize it. It's a loser's mentality and not at all realistic.

[TheClap]

I used to be a Thurman fan but he is losing me. He's turning into Floyd with all this talk about marinating fights. They are both heavychamp "champions" and have been for for 2-3 years now. Thurman keeps pushing this same bs narrative that every fighter can only ever have one big fight in their careers, so therefore that one fight must be marinated as long as possible and maximized for every cuent its worth. This is a total lie. In reality, good fights should happen immediately, and then the winner will be a bigger star, making their next fights much bigger, and creating more superfights in the future with other opponents who do the exact same thing. Good fights create MORE big fights, not less. Wtf is Thurman smoking?

For instance, why is Thurman acting like Spence is going to be his one and only superfight, and that therefore it has to be marinated for years? That's a total lie, because we already know that whoever wins that fight will be in line for an even bigger fight against Crawford. And then if anyone but Spence comes out of that mini-tournament, they will have big fights against Brook at a catchweight, or Amir Khan, in the UK, plus potentially whoever emerges at 154. Jermell Charlo could be a star by then. Or, a star could emerge from the 140 class. Prograis could be a star in the future. Plus, there are tons of welterweight prospects coming along, just like Spence was 3-4 years ago, who just like Spence, will represent a big fight in 3-4 years time.

So why is Thurman acting like there is only one superfight out there for him when we can already name 5+ right off the bat with guys who are currently established, and way more will surely come along over the next five years? I didn't even mention the Porter or DSG rematches which would also be big paydays for Thurman if he beats Spence and Crawford.

And the same for Wilder-Joshua. Whoever wins that will have an even bigger fight against Fury. Plus there can be rematches and trilogies for each of those fights. Plus more guys will emerge. So why does Thurman keep pushing this bull**** narrative like Floyd did? It makes it sound like Thurman is expecting to take a career-ending beating against Spence, because that is the only scenario in which Spencewould turn out to be the only remaining big fight of his career. And that seems like a total loser's mentality to me because Thurman has the skills to be competitive in that fight. And yet he's acting like fighting Spence is the same as donating one of his kidneys, so therefore he has to wait to get the most money possible for it, even if it means wasting away 2-3 years of his prime, because you can only donate a kidney once in your life, so you better maximize it. It's a loser's mentality and not at all realistic.

Wow bro. Wow. Your logic is bloody flippin on point! I would leave out Miss Amir Khandasian's name out of it, but for everything else, your words are gold. I would love to read a book, if one day you will publish one, on boxing. I'll even suggest a title/theme: The Ducking Game. I see a line there on Glory-seeking v. Self-preservation. One of the main characters can be Keith No-Smoke Thurman "You better not duck me son", and you better not forget to include your snippet above because it pretty much sums up the situation to a 'T'!

[Kezzer]

Just looking at stats.

Joshua's first real fight was may 2015 against Johnson. He stopped him in 2 rounds (which considering he's never been stopped including fights against vitali, pulev, fury, etc) was no mean feat. He then fought 4 unbeaten men in a row, including whyte, Martin and breazeale. Followed up by Molina (who he destroyed without being wobbled like Wilder) before the big fight against klitschko and takam. All the above my knockout and quite clear the increased level of opponent overtime.

Taking above into account he has fought 2 of top 10 by the ring and boxrec. Of the WBC top 10 he has fought 4, WBA 1, IBF 4, WBO 3.

Wilder on the other hand. He started his career 5 years ahead of Joshua but first meaningful fight was probably Harrison about the same time Joshua was starting up, it was Harrison's last fight and he already had six losses by then. A couple of easy fights followed , then took out Malik Scott, again some easy fights then Stiverne (who at the time was a ok fighter) who he beat by decision. Struggled past Molina next fight followed by several easy fights again with a couple domestic level ones thrown in. His last fight was against the out of shape stiverne. None of his opponents are in the ranking list of either the ring or boxrec. He also has fought no one in he top ten of either WBC, WBA, WBO or IBF.

Judge for yourself who you think is most likely to be ready?

[Tobi.G]

Im sure we get that fight somewhere in 2018! cAN#T WAIT!

[RussB23]

What about Spence though?