Comments Thread For: James Toney: Canelo Fought Like a Sissy, Ran From Golovkin!

[IronDanHamza]

I thought he beat McCallum clearly the first fight and convincingly enough the second time (though relatively close). The Jirov fight wasn't as close as HBO made out either.

Nothing about either McCallum fight was clear.

First one was either way I had it a draw second one I had McCallum winning.

Jirov he won but in no way was it easy.

He didn't beat any top fighter easily.

[IronDanHamza]

i don't know dan, i think part of that had to do with that laid back style he had, but after a lot of those fights, especially after jirov and the two griffin jobs, looked like toney could go another 12 and he just went 12...

Well he lost to Griffin twice.

I don't give him brownie points for looking like he can do another 12 after the fight. Maybe he should do more work in the actual fight and win them clearly instead.

He might have been able to do another 20 after Tiberi who knows doesn't change the fact that Tiberi beat him with ease.

[j.razor]

I don't think it's fair to say Canelo fought like a sissy. He may not have held his ground as much as he did with Cotto and Khan, but I don't think it would have been smart for him to stand in the middle of the ring and slug it out with GGG either. He moved more than I would have liked him to, especially after all of the chest thumping and bravado prior to the fight. But he paid a price for it. He got a gift with that draw and it will be interesting to see what each of them do differently in the rematch, if anything.

Nelo couldn't hurt him BUT lil g got smacked too much against Nelo. You cant win fights blocking punches with your face & body.

[chrisJS]

Well he lost to Griffin twice.

I don't give him brownie points for looking like he can do another 12 after the fight. Maybe he should do more work in the actual fight and win them clearly instead.

He might have been able to do another 20 after Tiberi who knows doesn't change the fact that Tiberi beat him with ease.

By the same token as taking the Griffin losses as clear losses then surely he beat Tiberi since it's officially in the record books as a win? He probably should have gotten a win off Griffin and a loss of Tiberi IMO.

[j.razor]

somehow ggg fans believe that...

No they don't. They putting up a front. They know he got two losses in a row.

[satiev1]

still landed more power punches than triple jab and had the cleaner punches throughout the fight.

Triple g landed 1.5 times more overall punches and 2x the amount of jabs, but canelo landed 2 more power punches. Derp he won the fight cause of that.

[bronx7]

McCallum so underaged was over the hill vs Toney was avoided not ducked by hearns Leonard today’s youth don’t even know him but worship Broner so sad

[IronDanHamza]

By the same token as taking the Griffin losses as clear losses then surely he beat Tiberi since it's officially in the record books as a win? He probably should have gotten a win off Griffin and a loss of Tiberi IMO.

At which point did I say the Griffin loss's were clear?

My personal score for Griffin was 1-1 but both were close either way fights where I can't complain with the cards.

Same way I scored McCallum 2 for McCallum but can't complain with the card as it was either way.

The Tiberi fight however is one of the biggest robberies in the history of the sport so I won't consider that anything but a loss for Toney.

[GhostofDempsey]

Nelo couldn't hurt him BUT lil g got smacked too much against Nelo. You cant win fights blocking punches with your face & body.

Meh, Canelo got tagged a lot by Cotto, but he was able to handle Cotto's power because he came in at least 15 lbs heavier.

[bronx7]

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