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  • BigStomps
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    #51
    Originally posted by Patsfan bri
    Only in England my friend. And when the hell did all this diva crap about who is the A side is start? Wasn’t like that when Holytwas the champ .
    You can spin it any way you want but at the end of the day boxing is a business and part of the business side is being able to put asses in seats and sell ppv buys...
    Thats where Canelo and Anthony Joshua are the best!
    They have a strong loyal fan base and they bring in plenty of money.
    So of course they gonna get the Lions share of the money since they bringing in the fanbase.
    That makes them the A side my friend..

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    • JRB123
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      #52
      Originally posted by Rubber Ducky
      People saying Joshua should give up the last few percent to make the fight, could ask the same of Parker. Fact is Parker is being over paid for this fight, if it gets made. His biggest purse was $1.5 mill vs Fury, he'll like make over $10 mill easily even for a 30% cut. But Hearn should over pay because if Parker loses his belt he'll likely make less per fight afterwards.
      This right here is what I'm saying.

      Both Parker and Wilder are going to be overpaid regardless of what the purse is. What the question will be is how much will they be overpaid.

      That's why I could see why Hearn is going at this from the angle of less than 35% for both those guys because they won't generate the returns that he is looking for.

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      • Fabes88
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        #53
        Originally posted by Patsfan bri
        all those PPV buys you are talking about is in England not the US. When the hell did all this A side crap start anyway. It wasn’t like this when Holyfield was champ. Plain and simple all the Hw champs need to fight each other money aside.
        It doesn't matter if the ppv sales were in Somalia he's still generating more money why Is that so hard for people to understand. If you make 20 mil a fight and I make 1 and I said "let's split the revenue 50/50" would you think that's fair?

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        • sayf
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          #54
          Originally posted by Patsfan bri
          Dude, WTF are you talking about? 65/35 split is fair and in wilders case he should get 50/50 cause he is the one hyping the fight and calling AJ out. He making some noise to promote the fight, getting the fans interest and is more known to the American boxing fans. Yes I know AJ has one big win over Wlad but that doesn't necessarily make him the A side.
          Some points to consider when deciding who's the "A" side:
          1) How much does each person earn in their fights usually?
          2) How many belts/titles does each have?
          3)What is their resume like?
          4)What is their PPV revenue?
          5)How many tickets do they sell?
          6)What is their public profile?

          The above list is generic to any fight, not specifically to this one. Make a table with the relevant figures/facts honestly then you will easily be able to identify the "A" side.

          Fanboy loyalties aside the answer is obvious, but the above formula should work for any fight.

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          • sayf
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            #55
            Originally posted by Patsfan bri
            all those PPV buys you are talking about is in England not the US. When the hell did all this A side crap start anyway. It wasn’t like this when Holyfield was champ. Plain and simple all the Hw champs need to fight each other money aside.
            You only need to go back as far as Dela Hoya to know when it all started. There was no way he was fighting anyone unless he was making the vast majority from the fight.

            Then the whole thing with Mayweather and Pac for the best part of a decade arguing.

            Those two are the just a most prominent examples in recent times, but this has always been a thing. Nobody is ****** enough to split 50-50 if they bring in 90% of the money.

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            • JRB123
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              #56
              Originally posted by sayf
              Some points to consider when deciding who's the "A" side:
              1) How much does each person earn in their fights usually?
              2) How many belts/titles does each have?
              3)What is their resume like?
              4)What is their PPV revenue?
              5)How many tickets do they sell?
              6)What is their public profile?

              The above list is generic to any fight, not specifically to this one. Make a table with the relevant figures/facts honestly then you will easily be able to identify the "A" side.

              Fanboy loyalties aside the answer is obvious, but the above formula should work for any fight.
              1. We know the monetary figures here, so advantage AJ.

              2. AJ has two major titles, Wilder has one. Advantage AJ.

              3. AJ has defeated two fighters in the top ten, Wilder beat one. Advantage AJ.

              4. Advantage AJ by default.

              5. Even with the price point difference, advantage AJ.

              6. Check Google Trends, Instagram, and Twitter. Advantage AJ.

              So there you have it.

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              • Holler
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                #57
                Originally posted by JRB123
                1. We know the monetary figures here, so advantage AJ.

                2. AJ has two major titles, Wilder has one. Advantage AJ.

                3. AJ has defeated two fighters in the top ten, Wilder beat one. Advantage AJ.

                4. Advantage AJ by default.

                5. Even with the price point difference, advantage AJ.

                6. Check Google Trends, Instagram, and Twitter. Advantage AJ.

                So there you have it.
                Yes but Wilder talks a lot. So none of the above matter. Plus he has a massive fanbase in the US. They don't attend his fights, watch him on tv, follow him on social media or buy PPV packages but they're definitely there. In any case all of that is irrelevant as Wilder talks a lot and therefore he deserves at least 50%. That's how boxing works.

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                • Patsfan bri
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BigStomps
                  You can spin it any way you want but at the end of the day boxing is a business and part of the business side is being able to put asses in seats and sell ppv buys...
                  Thats where Canelo and Anthony Joshua are the best!
                  They have a strong loyal fan base and they bring in plenty of money.
                  So of course they gonna get the Lions share of the money since they bringing in the fanbase.
                  That makes them the A side my friend..
                  yeah and the UFC is a business and look how that is working out for them ?
                  AJ does not have a huge fan base here the US and if that fight is in the US ( if they fight ) AJ wont really be the A side. Look maybe you don't think 50/50 is fair but wilder doesn't have to really take less than 45%.

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                  • Patsfan bri
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Fabes88
                    It doesn't matter if the ppv sales were in Somalia he's still generating more money why Is that so hard for people to understand. If you make 20 mil a fight and I make 1 and I said "let's split the revenue 50/50" would you think that's fair?
                    yeah it does matter. AJ doesn't not have a following here in the US, hell most Americans have not even ever seen him fight. If that fight does happen here in the US AJ cant really be the A side, if it happens in England then yes he has more financial control.

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                    • Patsfan bri
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Holler
                      Yes but Wilder talks a lot. So none of the above matter. Plus he has a massive fanbase in the US. They don't attend his fights, watch him on tv, follow him on social media or buy PPV packages but they're definitely there. In any case all of that is irrelevant as Wilder talks a lot and therefore he deserves at least 50%. That's how boxing works.
                      Than God, finally someone who makes sense.

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