Comments Thread For: Andrade: If No Canelo, I'd Fight Golovkin in February or March!

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Former world champion Demetrius Andrade (25-0, 16 KOs) has no problem with facing IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (37-0-1, 33 KOs) in the first quarter of next year - if GGG is unable to reach a deal for a May 5th rematch with Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. Golovkin was in the ring back in September, when he fought to a twelve round split draw with Canelo at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
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[lolpz]

Lol he knows Canelo vs. Golovkin is basically all but done, both sides want it and it will happen next.

So here he goes again, talking out his a*s. He just moved up, has no title, and won't fight anyone to put himself in a position to make a statement within the division. What happened to Derevychenko? Did you forget about that fight being offered to you for December but you turned it down? Why don't you fight him in February or March instead to stamp your name into the division? "Prolonged" huh? More like the deal was finalized/done but YOU turned it down in the end.

Again, you're a ****ing clown. Stop talking.

[Boxing Logic]

As a huge GGG fan myself, I'd love to see this as well. Andrade's fights so far in his career have not been very entertaining, but he showed such speed, athleticism, reflexes, length, and decent pop in his last fight that I think him against actual top, entertaining fighters who aren't scared to take the fight to him and are capable of hitting him with hurtful shots would make for very good fights.

Andrade is one of those boxers like Floyd, Lara, Rigo, etc who are extremely boring vs 99% of opponents, but who actually make for the most entertaining fights in the sport so long as you put them in with someone good enough to force them to fight. Floyd ducked all those guys so we never got to see a fight like that involving him... Lara fought only one with the right style, Angulo, who wasn't quite elite, but the style combined with Angulo's underrated ability in his prime and his huge heart made it a very good fight nonetheless, and then Lara fought one very good fighter in Canelo but who is more of a counterpuncher himself, not the right style, and didn't have the stamina to force the fight consistently either. Plus he was still green back then. And Rigo is facing his first elite, prime opponent tomorrow.

So there isn't much sample size with that group of fighters to prove my theory correct, but I am telling y'all. I mean, Andre Ward, another example. When he finally fought a top but past prime, no stamina fighter in Sergey Kovalev, it was scintillating stuff for as long as Kovalev's gas tank held up, and would have been truly epic had Ward been forced to fight rather than allowed to hold and foul. But put even a "boxer" like Ward, one of the most boring and most defensive fighters in the sport, in with someone like Kovalev, except in his prime and with the stamina to fight all 12 rounds, and then actually enforce the rules so the boxer like Ward is forced to alternate boxing-moving and actually fighting back in order to survive and win the fight, rather than being able to alternate boxing-moving and holding and fouling, which takes the fight out of the fight, and then you would have the fight of the year, maybe even fight of the decade, and that is even with a style like Ward's, let alone Andrade's which is at least much more fan friendly than Ward's.

It's true, and if someone wants to look through boxing history and find examples, I'm sure they will see that it's true, but promoters and boxing commissions just fail to realize the value of what they have, even in styles like Andrade's, if only they would matchmake correctly and enforce the damn rules, which were created this way by people much smarter than them for a REASON. George R.R. Martin is a great writer, but still you don't see him trying to edit and correct Shakespeare. Because he is smart enough to realize that Shakespeare wrote certain things a specific way for a reason, even if Martin can't talk to Shakespeare right now to ask why. Same here. John Graham Chambers wrote the Marquess of Queensbury rules the way he did for a reason, and they turned a very unpopular sport into the most popular sport on the planet. Then modern commissions started ignoring certain rules in order to help fighters who 9 times out of 10 turn out to not even be worth it financially anyway (because when will they learn, fans don't like boring defensive cheaters!), always at the expense of much more entertaining boxers who were and are much more likely to become worth it financially if only they could or could have fought on even playing fields on their rise to stardom. Now, as a result, the sport has tanked in popularity since they started doing that. ENFORCE THE MARQUESS OF QUEENSBURY RULES! NO MORE HOLDING!

So as for GGG-Andrade, I definitely want to see it, but this does bring me to my only hold up I have in saying GGG should fight him, which is the fact that he's American, he's black, he's not entertaining, he barely fights and when he does he rarely if ever fights top opponents, he can't sell tickets, and he's done nothing to bring many news fans to the sport, which means if it goes to the scorecards, all seven ingredients are there for Vegas to gift him a robbery decision over a former-USSR state boxer who fights often against the best opponents who will get in the ring with him every time in entertaining fights and who has attracted lots of new fans to boxing.

I would be worried about Max Kellerman, Roy Jones Jr, the judges and the referee all being biased towards Andrade. I would be worried even about VADA letting hypothetical potential dirty tests slip through the cracks unnoticed if Andrade were to test dirty. TO BE CLEAR, I am not saying Andrade has ever used PEDS, or would ever use PEDs, or would ever test dirty, and I have absolutely no reason to think he ever has or ever will, or that VADA would cover for him if he did. I'm just saying, Canelo and Ward's physiques BOTH transformed in very su****ious ways last year in my OPINION despite VADA testing, and VADA did not report finding anything su****ious or against the rules in their test results.

BUT, if the fight could take place on neutral ground, without Kellerman or Roy Jones Jr or the HBO producer involved who did Kovalev-Ward II last year and hid all the clear replay camera angles of the final THREE punches of the fight (not just the last one, which he/she was forced to show, but only showed one decent angle), and without any ref or judges with ANY history of favoring either the money boxer or the local boxer, then I would love to see this fight ASAP, along with GGG-Charlo, GGG-Saunders, GGG-Lara, GGG-Degale, GGG_-Jack at 170, and GGG vs the winner of the 168 WBSS tournament.

[Andre_parker1]

andrade should fight derevyanchenko for the IBF mandatory spot...earn the title-shot

[Tony Trick-Pony]

What's he got going on in January?

[daggum]

hbo wanted him to fight derychenko and the winner would have got canelo, ggg, jacobs, murata, saunders, or lemieux. oh well...its easier to just call out people

[aboutfkntime]

Former world champion Demetrius Andrade (25-0, 16 KOs) has no problem with facing IBF, IBO, WBA, WBC middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin (37-0-1, 33 KOs) in the first quarter of next year - if GGG is unable to reach a deal for a May 5th rematch with Mexican superstar Saul "Canelo" Alvarez. Golovkin was in the ring back in September, when he fought to a twelve round split draw with Canelo at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
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in before, mando doe

[rickJen]

This delusional clown still doesn't have a close friend or what? He still doesn't know he's a nobody, eh?
An inactive clown who hasn't fought anyone of worth.
I guess it now pays to call out big names like Lara does, then fight nobodies.

[lolpz]

hbo wanted him to fight derychenko and the winner would have got canelo, ggg, jacobs, murata, saunders, or lemieux. oh well...its easier to just call out people

You can't deny Andrade not fighting that russian guy is disgraceful. For him to sit there and call out Canelo and GGG when he can fight Derevychenko for the #1 IBF spot is disgusting. He knows those guys won't even look his way without him earning it.

[lolpz]

This delusional clown still doesn't have a close friend or what? He still doesn't know he's a nobody, eh?
An inactive clown who hasn't fought anyone of worth.
I guess it now pays to call out big names like Lara does, then fight nobodies.

At least Lara fought and arguably beat Canelo. Lara is now in the position to unify at 154, and btw - as soon as these guys are about to start fighting each other don't you find it funny Andrade jumped up to 160?