AJ not gonna risk his belt for less than his last fight

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  • Sparked_26
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    #61
    Originally posted by john l
    NO ITS NOT!!!!!!!!your comparing a guy who is middle class or less with a guy who is makin MILLIONS no matter what.And your also not taking in to consideration that this is STILL A SPORT.So its ok for J Jones(owner of dallas cowboys for you guys across pond)to say "Well we not playing the Pats in superbowl because we got more money to play the Browns?????????Quit being a fanboy or wanna be promoter and START BEING A FAN OF BOXING.
    It is prize fighting. We all know what it is.

    Wilder is within his rights to maximise his earnings but obviously AJ isn't going to take less money for it. I am aware the man multi but he's got a value now.

    Wilder and Parker have to adjust their asking price or wait until AJ gets knocked off by someone else.

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      #62
      Originally posted by jew85em

      Wilders made 17.6 mil in 3 years
      Absolute rubbish how has wilder made 17.6 mill in the last 3 years, please advise?

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      • john l
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        #63
        Originally posted by Sparked_26
        It is prize fighting. We all know what it is.

        Wilder is within his rights to maximise his earnings but obviously AJ isn't going to take less money for it. I am aware the man multi but he's got a value now.

        Wilder and Parker have to adjust their asking price or wait until AJ gets knocked off by someone else.
        1ST off even though he would be giving up less % don't mean less MONEY.Now what would you rather have 75% of 100 bucks or 65% of 150.And none of them are getting 50-50 AND they KNOW IT.Like I said earlier its like going to buy a car you ALWAYS ask for less then you KNOW ur gonna get it for!Then dealer comes back with counter and so forth.But YOU NEVER want to offer MORE then dealer WILL take so you start out with a clearly lower offer and see what he comes back with.

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        • john l
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          #64
          And again WHY THE HELL DO ANY OF YOU CARE if Joshua makes 20 or 25 mil.At that point I wanna see you fight BEST because your going home with more money then everyone of us will ever see.

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          • Daud
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            #65
            AJ must realize someday, better opponents will mean bigger paydays.

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            • Holler
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              #66
              Originally posted by john l
              AGREE 1000% Another wanna be promoter(for his fanboy crush)What fan cares whether Joshua makes 20 mil or 25 mil.I mean I like fighters to get all they can get. But at that point FIGHT THE BEST your makin a TON of cash anyway.
              I can't say its of great importance but I like to see competence and professionalism rewarded. I also don't like to see incompetence rewarded. So all things being equal I'd prefer to see Joshua get at or near what he's entitled to simply because I respect the way he's gone about things.

              That's not a fanboy crush either, it's understanding how boxing works and what it takes to make a deal with two parties with conflicting aims and uneven leverage. Ultimately I'm a fan of boxing, not individual fighters.

              So, although it ultimately doesn't affect me, I don't really want Joshua to sign a ridiculous deal with either of the other belt holders. I certainly wouldn't if I were him.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Daud
                AJ must realize someday, better opponents will mean bigger paydays.
                That will only happen if the opponents don't demand all the money.

                75% of 30 mil is more than 55% of 40 mil.

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                • Sparked_26
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by john l
                  And again WHY THE HELL DO ANY OF YOU CARE if Joshua makes 20 or 25 mil.At that point I wanna see you fight BEST because your going home with more money then everyone of us will ever see.
                  Not once have I said I care what he makes. I don't mind if he loses. Nor have many others but the point is he has a value now you can literally put a number on it £15 million seems to be the number. And this isn't America. There is a finite amount of money that can be made here. So you can talk about people being mini promoters but it is very formulaic over here. You can near enough do some amateur accounting and cost the whole event if you're boring enough.

                  At this point they're all playing the game. But there is no need being naive about it. Obviously if American money was brought in the game changes completely.

                  If you are saying AJ should fight just for the sport of it. Then nobody is really gonna disagree with that in principle but only say that that it is naive.

                  Because like you said Boxing is barely a sport. What it is is prizefighting.

                  When fighters earn this kind of money I don't even view it as positive from a fans point of view because it nixes fights and creates awful undercards. As every pound and penny fought over tooth and nail. You know some poor bastard is going to be getting blasted on the undercard for beer tokens.

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                  • john l
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Holler
                    I can't say its of great importance but I like to see competence and professionalism rewarded. I also don't like to see incompetence rewarded. So all things being equal I'd prefer to see Joshua get at or near what he's entitled to simply because I respect the way he's gone about things.

                    That's not a fanboy crush either, it's understanding how boxing works and what it takes to make a deal with two parties with conflicting aims and uneven leverage. Ultimately I'm a fan of boxing, not individual fighters.

                    So, although it ultimately doesn't affect me, I don't really want Joshua to sign a ridiculous deal with either of the other belt holders. I certainly wouldn't if I were him.
                    Belive me it will NOT be a ridiculous deal.And BOTH Parker and esp Wilder people(Wilders peeps are more exper)KNOW their not getting 50=50.My guess on being a fan of almost 40yrs and seeing this s hite a thousand times is Parker and his peeps are trying to get to 30%Wilders more closer to 35-40.No inside knowledge just my educated guess.

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                    • john l
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Sparked_26
                      Not once have I said I care what he makes. I don't mind if he loses. Nor have many others but the point is he has a value now you can literally put a number on it £15 million seems to be the number. And this isn't America. There is a finite amount of money that can be made here. So you can talk about people being mini promoters but it is very formulaic over here. You can near enough do some amateur accounting and cost the whole event if you're boring enough.

                      At this point they're all playing the game. But there is no need being naive about it. Obviously if American money was brought in the game changes completely.

                      If you are saying AJ should fight just for the sport of it. Then nobody is really gonna disagree with that in principle but only say that that it is naive.

                      Because like you said Boxing is barely a sport. What it is is prizefighting.

                      When fighters earn this kind of money I don't even view it as positive from a fans point of view because it nixes fights and creates awful undercards. As every pound and penny fought over tooth and nail. You know some poor bastard is going to be getting blasted on the undercard for beer tokens.
                      Part of reason its barley a sport is that REAL fans want to see best fight.Now I'm far from naïve but once your makin the kind of money Joshua is making fans don't care if you might ONLY make 25 mil.Plus like I said in other post Joshua WILL NOT BE TAKIN A PAY CUT for Wilder fight.Smaller % but bigger pie.

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