Comments Thread For: Hearn: I'd Like Wilder To Fight Whyte - Winner Gets Joshua Shot

[Wolfie*]

Wilder is a champion. It's ****** to say he should fight or needs to fight this person in order to get a shot at the other belts. He's not some contender to try to prove something. He's a champion and they should just fight anyway so we can see a unification.

[UNBIASED BOXING]

He is really trying to keep Joshua from Wilder..why?

He's trying to do his job as a promoter and build the fight to maximize returns. Unfortunately, Wilder is not a big name outside of the U.S. Just like you hypocrites were with GGG claiming he needed to accept Canelo's A-side terms, or flat fee--- AJ is the A-side by far here.

Why do you think he wants Wilder to fight Whyte? Because Whyte is somewhat known in the UK, and it builds pressure from the UK public to demand for the fight, being that he's a scalp on AJ's resume and drew good attention. This fight should happen in the UK. Not the U.S.

He's not doing this wrong at all. Wilder should just fight Whyte, since it's a career payday and should be a guaranteed, easy win (according to you guys anyways).

[Larry the boss]

He's trying to do his job as a promoter and build the fight to maximize returns. Unfortunately, Wilder is not a big name outside of the U.S. Just like you hypocrites were with GGG claiming he needed to accept Canelo's A-side terms, or flat fee--- AJ is the A-side by far here.

Why do you think he wants Wilder to fight Whyte? Because Whyte is somewhat known in the UK, and it builds pressure from the UK public to demand for the fight, being that he's a scalp on AJ's resume and drew good attention. This fight should happen in the UK. Not the U.S.

He's not doing this wrong at all. Wilder should just fight Whyte, since it's a career payday and should be a guaranteed, easy win (according to you guys anyways).

who are you guy?? im not even a Wilder fan...But Joshua's camp has given nothing but excuses on top of excuses to NOT fight Wilder..WHY?? i really dont get it..The guy is nothing special IMO

[TinAgeOfBoxing]

Shameless pimp Hearn is making Joshua look like a pussssy with all these ducking excuses.

[sotgoda]

Boxing is not all about money. Not everyone is concerned with making the most money - and not everyone can be Floyd Mayweather. Some fight because of their legacy. Whyte provides no value to Wilder - only ignorant UK fans feel that way. Who did Molina fight for him to take on AJ? Who did Breazeale fight for him to take on AJ? Now these same UK fans talk about Wilder building his name in UK but did not say that about any of the other guys. This logic goes past their heads. And AJ is popular only in the UK because they don't really have any other sports that they are good at.

The second argument of the UK fans does not make sense. They keep saying Whyte is this tough guy. Look at whom Whyte has fought so far. If Wilder had fought those guys, they will be crucifying him. They are already crucifying him even without fighting those guys and when people take PEDs, Wilder gets blamed for that too.

Whyte arguably lost to Chisora. Instead of rematching, he kept calling Wilder out and chose to fight a 44 year old Michale Grant. After the outcry of fans, then he changes it to fight a 38 year old Malcolm Tann. Then, he looks average in that fight in spite of fighting very bad fighters and then says he is ready to fight Wilder. This is hilarious. If only these delusional UK fans could be objective, even they know in their heart of hearts that it does not add up. But instead of stating the facts, they repeat Eddie's line of offering Wilder $4.5m - when Wilder wants to fight AJ instead. Then they say Wilder needs to prove himself before fighting AJ - going back to argument 1 which I clearly debunked.

Whyte is an above average fighter with a very loud mouth who provides Wilder with no intrinsic value. If Eddie wants Wilder to help clean up his mess, then he needs to pay him a whole lot to waste his time. It's that simple. Everyone with an eye can see that Wilder destroys Whyte anytime, anyday.

Stop protecting AJ and line him up to fight Wilder. That's the fight that everyone wants and the one that matters. Enough with the excuses.

Eddie's most recent excuse now is that they may fight Parker now in Feb/March. This is the same Parker he said is not good enough just a few weeks back. Pathetic!

[thabanga510]

Whyte doesnt have a belt there is no need to fight Joshua's left overs.

[thabanga510]

No more hype is needed the UK fans will buy tickets no matter who Joshua fights. Joshua is shook and is trying to avoid Wilder.

[thabanga510]

Whyte is a UK journeyman. Wilder does not need bow to the English man Hearn's demands he is not his promoter.

[Deus]

Boxing is not all about money. Not everyone is concerned with making the most money - and not everyone can be Floyd Mayweather. [1] Some fight because of their legacy. Whyte provides no value to Wilder - only ignorant UK fans feel that way. Who did Molina fight for him to take on AJ? Who did Breazeale fight for him to take on AJ? Now these same UK fans talk about Wilder building his name in UK but did not say that about any of the other guys. This logic goes past their heads [2]. And AJ is popular only in the UK because they don't really have any other sports that they are good at [3].

The second argument of the UK fans does not make sense. They keep saying Whyte is this tough guy. Look at whom Whyte has fought so far. If Wilder had fought those guys, they will be crucifying him. They are already crucifying him even without fighting those guys and when people take PEDs, Wilder gets blamed for that too.

Whyte arguably lost to Chisora. Instead of rematching, he kept calling Wilder out and chose to fight a 44 year old Michale Grant. After the outcry of fans, then he changes it to fight a 38 year old Malcolm Tann. Then, he looks average in that fight in spite of fighting very bad fighters and then says he is ready to fight Wilder. This is hilarious. If only these delusional UK fans could be objective, even they know in their heart of hearts that it does not add up. But instead of stating the facts, they repeat Eddie's line of offering Wilder $4.5m - when Wilder wants to fight AJ instead. Then they say Wilder needs to prove himself before fighting AJ - going back to argument 1 which I clearly debunked.

Whyte is an above average fighter with a very loud mouth who provides Wilder with no intrinsic value [4]. If Eddie wants Wilder to help clean up his mess, then he needs to pay him a whole lot to waste his time [5]. It's that simple. Everyone with an eye can see that Wilder destroys Whyte anytime, anyday.

Stop protecting AJ and line him up to fight Wilder. That's the fight that everyone wants and the one that matters [6]. Enough with the excuses.

Eddie's most recent excuse now is that they may fight Parker now in Feb/March. [7]This is the same Parker he said is not good enough just a few weeks back. Pathetic!

[1] A boxing promoter is all about money though, hence why everything coming out of Hearn's mouth will revolve around making the most money possible.

[2] Totally different situations. Molina and Breazeale were just average defences. Wilder should be the biggest fight of Joshua's career and thus should have a lot more attention to it. Most of the people that bought those two fights literally had no clue who Molina and Breazeale were and were just buying because it was Joshua, whereas if it's possible to get a fight where everyone knows both fighters the fights reach is that much bigger, ergo more money, ergo Hearn's point.

[3] You talk about ignorance earlier and then come up with that statement. Football (Soccer to you, clearly) is the most popular sport in the whole goddamn world and the Premier League is the most reputable league within it. Lewis Hamilton is one of the most recognisable racers in F1 and Andy Murray is one of the top tennis players in the world (was no1 before injury).

[4] Yeh I actually think Wilder destroys Whyte but there clearly is value in doing so.

[5] Or wait for Whyte to become mandatory, which isn't far off.

[6] It's the fight we all want, but it is certainly not the fight everyone wants. Boxingscene is a pretty limited community and is not a good representation of 'everyone'.

[7] Ironically that's the only fight i'd accept to happen before Wilder, as then the Wilder fight would be for all the belts and a total unification.

[sotgoda]

[1] A boxing promoter is all about money though, hence why everything coming out of Hearn's mouth will revolve around making the most money possible.

[2] Totally different situations. Molina and Breazeale were just average defences. Wilder should be the biggest fight of Joshua's career and thus should have a lot more attention to it. Most of the people that bought those two fights literally had no clue who Molina and Breazeale were and were just buying because it was Joshua, whereas if it's possible to get a fight where everyone knows both fighters the fights reach is that much bigger, ergo more money, ergo Hearn's point.

[3] You talk about ignorance earlier and then come up with that statement. Football (Soccer to you, clearly) is the most popular sport in the whole goddamn world and the Premier League is the most reputable league within it. Lewis Hamilton is one of the most recognisable racers in F1 and Andy Murray is one of the top tennis players in the world (was no1 before injury).

[4] Yeh I actually think Wilder destroys Whyte but there clearly is value in doing so.

[5] Or wait for Whyte to become mandatory, which isn't far off.

[6] It's the fight we all want, but it is certainly not the fight everyone wants. Boxingscene is a pretty limited community and is not a good representation of 'everyone'.

[7] Ironically that's the only fight i'd accept to happen before Wilder, as then the Wilder fight would be for all the belts and a total unification.

I am aware of the sports in the UK. The only individual sport that people tune in that much to watch one person is boxing. The only other time it happens is during Wimbledon when Murray plays. Even at Wimbledon, Federer sometimes gets more support than Murray - effectively an adopted son. I am a big tennis fan by the way and follow that actively but once Wimbledon is over - what other sport is it that allows the potential for 70k+ people to come and watch?

Now, please don't say soccer. It is the most popular sport in the world - so I thought that would be implied and it is not an individual sport. Hamilton does well and is probably the greatest in F1 at least for his age to date, maybe ever but I am not sure he gets 70k+ people. That's my point.

No one is asking Eddie not to promote but making foolish statements and acting like he is the law is what people like me have problem with. You make statements like there were average defenses for AJ - what exactly does that mean? What is average here?

If Whyte is Wilder's mandatory, he will fight him, but let's not start acting like Whyte is fighting a world beater. In my opinion, he lost to Chisora. By the way, Whyte is fighting a guy who was beat by a guy Wilder beat. When Johann Duhuapas was beat by Wilder, most of the delusional fans say he is not known and is a journeyman.

Then, he goes over to Finland and knocks out Helenius whom Eddie and Whyte are now hyping up as a top fighter, and one which should qualify Whyte to fight Wilder. How come this logic only makes sense to the AJ fans? If Helenius is a top fighter, then the guy who beat him should be too - one will think.

The important question here is this - why is there always an excuse to fight Wilder? If he was that easy as Hearn says (i.e. 3 rounds or less), why not fight him 1st? That's all I am asking. You and I seem to agree on many other points although we have some differences, but that's cool and normal.