Comments Thread For: Loeffler: Golovkin Will Be Even More Persistent in Rematch

[Daccan]

I remember when Mosley came back to fight Mayorga and he said "I'll fight anyone at 154-160 including GGG". Clearly GGG was scared to fight Mosley then too

[Daccan]

problem is, he had just refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo LOL

Bullshhtkin failed to back up his big mouth..... but you decided to blame Cotto and mention Corley LOL

I am sensing a silly G-tard

You seem to think I worry about the drama about what these fighters say, how unfortunate of you . I was saying I found it hard to believe that GGG would be scared to fight Cotto for the middleweight belt. The 160 lb middleweight belt, not the "155 middleweight belt", there's a difference. Was that clear enough? Based off the 0 fights GGG has had at 154, I couldn't even make an assumption on his performance - good or bad - because I am not an illogical poster like some. At 160? Cotto gets KO'd I put my house on it, and that's a real middleweight fight for a real middleweight belt. Send me a link where GGG says "I want to unify LMW, MW, and SMW" please

[aboutfkntime]

And now you try to twist things around. I call bull*****. Mora is widely known to have no power. He would have depended soley on his boxing to win but as I said he had a worse recent record against worse competition than the guy GGG wound up fighting. You responded by saying

My response wasn't spin. Its the only possible judgement someone could get out of your response to mines.

And no, this situation is not the same thing as Ward and Lara because we both know those guys are so far out of Mora's league they are barely even competing in the same sport. While I don't think GGG ducked either of them for reasons I've explained to you Ad nauseam I could understand the argument that GGG is looks weaker than it could have looked if he retires without ever having fought either. But you can't say the same thing about Mora. Mora would have been as meaningless a presence on GGG's resume as Adama is. But between Mora and Adama, Mora was the weaker puncher with a worse recent record against worse competition. The only thing he really had going for him was his name and supposed boxing ability which he often completely negated because his propensity to get into brawls.

Moreover, it worked out in everyone's favor. Had Mora fought GGG he would have gotten dominated. Had that happened he would may not have been seen as a worthwhile competitor for Danny Jacobs. He got two high profile paydays against a Jacobs whereas he wouldn't have gotten more than one shot at GGG. To top it off, GGG managed to become a star even without ever fighting Mora. In my opinion, all is well that ends well. I can't imagine a better scenario for all involved.

FACT: you said Golovkin would KTFO Jacobs
FACT: you said Golovkin would KTFO Canelo

so..... your opinion on how Mora would fare is totally irrelevant, and your excuses were bullshht

just like this other guy Daccan with Cotto

neither of you would have a fkn clue how those guys would fare..... that clown decided to bring up Corley LOL

the only thing those guys have in common is Golovkin FAILED to call their "bluff"..... just like he did with Lara/Ward

Mora was an obvious no-brainer, and Loeffler's excuses were even worse than yours..... and nobody will ever be able to explain why Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refused to negotiate on weight with an old faded 153lb superstar

[aboutfkntime]

He's about as much of a risk as Mosley. As much of a risk as Shawn Porter. I don't think you saw this fight, but Chop Chop ****ing Corley rocked Cotto at 140. Apparently Golovkin can't replicate what Corley did because Cotto's chin got so much better over these years? Idk lol.

Because Cotto didn't claim to be a Middleweight champion fighting at a 155 lb catchweight? Seriously, Mayweather @ 154 is one thing, as GGG would have gotten a payday no matter what... Also, I'm pretty sure there was another guy that GGG had his eyes set on who was also had a name that started with C during that period. If Cotto wanted to prove he was a true *middleweight*, maybe history would have played out differently.



Can you tell me why a guy who wants to unify his 160 lb division will go down to fight a 154 lb fighter who either wants to pretend to be a 160 lb fighter at a catchweight (like some people did), or will he stay in his lane and continue to dominate?

Cotto couldn't knock out his last opponent despite him being an easy, easy target. I wonder if GGG could have knocked him out. Probably not at catchweight, because all power disappears at catchweight and GGG won't be able to land a punch, because it's catchweight. Poor GGG

I also love how you're basically saying "to fight Cotto for a middleweight belt, he'd have to fight at junior middle weight +1 lb".

I thought Canelo-GGG was going the distance back in 2015 after he wrecked Lemieux, a fighter that would have been very competitive with Cotto.

I didn't say that. Go read my post and prove me wrong.

I didn't say that. Go read my post and prove me wrong.

I didn't say that. Go read my post and prove me wrong.

I think I heard it twice from the "Lil G" clique that isn't very hard to notice, tbh. You know, because they're both just slow, unimpressive plodders with big chins and that's it, lol.

you mentioning Corley is ridiculous, and desperate as fk

FACT: if Cotto was easy-work, Mr "154-168" would not have shat the bed over weight

this is Bull****kin, insisting that he can make 154, but lamenting that nobody will fight him.....




problem is, he had just refused to negotiate on weight with Cotto/Canelo LOL

Bullshhtkin failed to back up his big mouth..... but you decided to blame Cotto and mention Corley LOL

I am sensing a silly G-tard

[yankees7448]

I said no such thing

that is just your spin, as usual

I said this.....

1) boxing is all about match-making.....
2) match-making is all about styles.....
3) styles make fights.....
4) you need to get it through your thick little fanboy head, that Team Bullshht are making the exact same risk/reward decisions as everybody else.....

It is embarrassingly ****** of you to think otherwise

Mora is a mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against, he proved that when he stunk out the joint with Mosley..... even though Mora had faded, they did not want to take the risk at that point in time.....

and Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses proved that

they simply did not need that fight..... the only positive was a potential showcase against a name opponent..... but it is all about risk/reward.... and they simply did not want to risk looking bad, failing to put Mora away..... or, worse

there were MUCH easier ways for Golovkin to rack up the KO's that you casuals simply adore..... so, they took them

smarten up

oh, and I also said they made the exact same decision with Lara/Ward..... for the exact same reason

those fights were unnecessary/risky, and there were easier ways to make a dollar getting surefire KO's

And now you try to twist things around. I call bull*****. Mora is widely known to have no power. He would have depended soley on his boxing to win but as I said he had a worse recent record against worse competition than the guy GGG wound up fighting. You responded by saying

FACT: the very best opponent for a guy who is attempting to establish himself on the world stage..... is a former champ who has clearly faded..... boxing has always worked that way

My response wasn't spin. Its the only possible judgement someone could get out of your response to mines.

And no, this situation is not the same thing as Ward and Lara because we both know those guys are so far out of Mora's league they are barely even competing in the same sport. While I don't think GGG ducked either of them for reasons I've explained to you Ad nauseam I could understand the argument that GGG is looks weaker than it could have looked if he retires without ever having fought either. But you can't say the same thing about Mora. Mora would have been as meaningless a presence on GGG's resume as Adama is. But between Mora and Adama, Mora was the weaker puncher with a worse recent record against worse competition. The only thing he really had going for him was his name and supposed boxing ability which he often completely negated because his propensity to get into brawls.

Moreover, it worked out in everyone's favor. Had Mora fought GGG he would have gotten dominated. Had that happened he would may not have been seen as a worthwhile competitor for Danny Jacobs. He got two high profile paydays against a Jacobs whereas he wouldn't have gotten more than one shot at GGG. To top it off, GGG managed to become a star even without ever fighting Mora. In my opinion, all is well that ends well. I can't imagine a better scenario for all involved.

[Daccan]

that is a ridiculous casual-fan comment, seriously

if Cotto was " No risk, all reward " they would have signed that fight in a heartbeat

He's about as much of a risk as Mosley. As much of a risk as Shawn Porter. I don't think you saw this fight, but Chop Chop ****ing Corley rocked Cotto at 140. Apparently Golovkin can't replicate what Corley did because Cotto's chin got so much better over these years? Idk lol.

if that is even slightly true, then why did Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refuse to negotiate on weight with little old faded 153lb Cotto.....?

Because Cotto didn't claim to be a Middleweight champion fighting at a 155 lb catchweight? Seriously, Mayweather @ 154 is one thing, as GGG would have gotten a payday no matter what... Also, I'm pretty sure there was another guy that GGG had his eyes set on who was also had a name that started with C during that period. If Cotto wanted to prove he was a true *middleweight*, maybe history would have played out differently.

when Golovkin shat the bed over weight, he killed that fight walked away from his best possible payday

Can you tell me why a guy who wants to unify his 160 lb division will go down to fight a 154 lb fighter who either wants to pretend to be a 160 lb fighter at a catchweight (like some people did), or will he stay in his lane and continue to dominate?

to get that fight, Golovkin would have to agree to a catchweight..... and at catchweight, Cotto was knocking out the same fools he was

Cotto couldn't knock out his last opponent despite him being an easy, easy target. I wonder if GGG could have knocked him out. Probably not at catchweight, because all power disappears at catchweight and GGG won't be able to land a punch, because it's catchweight. Poor GGG

I also love how you're basically saying "to fight Cotto for a middleweight belt, he'd have to fight at junior middle weight +1 lb".

stop visualizing GGG wearing a superman costume willya

I thought Canelo-GGG was going the distance back in 2015 after he wrecked Lemieux, a fighter that would have been very competitive with Cotto.

and stop insisting that had Golovkin backed up his big 154-168 mouth and agreed to a catchweight

I didn't say that. Go read my post and prove me wrong.

that Cotto would not have fought him.....

I didn't say that. Go read my post and prove me wrong.

Golovkin did not call Cotto's "bluff" just like he never called anyone else's "bluff", and Cotto fought everyone

I didn't say that. Go read my post and prove me wrong.

and I have never heard anyone compare Golovkin to Margarito, not once

I think I heard it twice from the "Lil G" clique that isn't very hard to notice, tbh. You know, because they're both just slow, unimpressive plodders with big chins and that's it, lol.

[aboutfkntime]

Wow. If Golovkin seriously *refused* to fight Cotto of all people.... if I saw proof I wouldn't believe it still. No risk, all reward is an understatement here. Seriously, it took Cotto 12 rounds to "drop" a long faded and washed up Mayorga. He couldn't even come close to knocking out Margarito, who people like to compare Golovkin to.

that is a ridiculous casual-fan comment, seriously

if Cotto was " No risk, all reward " they would have signed that fight in a heartbeat

if that is even slightly true, then why did Mr "anyone from 154-168" totally refuse to negotiate on weight with little old faded 153lb Cotto.....?

when Golovkin shat the bed over weight, he killed that fight walked away from his best possible payday

to get that fight, Golovkin would have to agree to a catchweight..... and at catchweight, Cotto was knocking out the same fools he was

stop visualizing GGG wearing a superman costume willya

and stop insisting that had Golovkin backed up his big 154-168 mouth and agreed to a catchweight, that Cotto would not have fought him..... Golovkin did not call Cotto's "bluff" just like he never called anyone else's "bluff", and Cotto fought everyone

and I have never heard anyone compare Golovkin to Margarito, not once

[Daccan]

Golovkin may have said that..... but then he refused fights with current/ex-champs Mora, Lara, Cotto, Ward.....

Wow. If Golovkin seriously *refused* to fight Cotto of all people.... if I saw proof I wouldn't believe it still. No risk, all reward is an understatement here. Seriously, it took Cotto 12 rounds to "drop" a long faded and washed up Mayorga. He couldn't even come close to knocking out Margarito, who people like to compare Golovkin to.

[aboutfkntime]

oh.....


NEXT !!


but, the same old tired silliness..... really ?

and GTFOH with that " Mora is a bum " rubbish

if Mora was a bum, they WOULD have fought him

just like they did the others

[aboutfkntime]

So let me get this straight. You're not saying GGG ducked Mora because you thought Mora could beat him or make him look ugly. You're saying he ducked Mora because in this instance he chose not beat up a faded former champion while he himself was on his way up. Are you kidding me? Is this how far you are going with your hatred. Its not enough to accuse GGG of ducking guys who may have actually had a chance against him but you're accusing him of ducking guys you didn't think had a chance anyway just because doing so would have been the conventional move.

I said no such thing

that is just your spin, as usual

I said this.....

1) boxing is all about match-making.....
2) match-making is all about styles.....
3) styles make fights.....
4) you need to get it through your thick little fanboy head, that Team Bullshht are making the exact same risk/reward decisions as everybody else.....

It is embarrassingly ****** of you to think otherwise

Mora is a mover/spoiler who is notoriously difficult to look good against, he proved that when he stunk out the joint with Mosley..... even though Mora had faded, they did not want to take the risk at that point in time.....

and Loeffler stuttering and stammering his way through half-a-dozen silly excuses proved that

they simply did not need that fight..... the only positive was a potential showcase against a name opponent..... but it is all about risk/reward.... and they simply did not want to risk looking bad, failing to put Mora away..... or, worse

there were MUCH easier ways for Golovkin to rack up the KO's that you casuals simply adore..... so, they took them

smarten up

oh, and I also said they made the exact same decision with Lara/Ward..... for the exact same reason

those fights were unnecessary/risky, and there were easier ways to make a dollar getting surefire KO's