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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder, Luis Ortiz and a Heavyweight Drug Issue

    By Tris Dixon - ONE wonders if, at this rate, there will be any heavyweights left. The list of drug cheats or those who have even posted positive tests is long, and it is growing longer. This week, Luis Ortiz, the WBC announced, tested positive for a banned substance, torpedoing his anticipated showdown with Deontay Wilder. Of course, Wilder has been here before. While preparing to face Alexander Povetkin, the Russian tested positive scuppering that match...
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  • Kiowhatta
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    Good, incisive article. The sanctioning bodies are almost behaving as enablers with their ambivalent, vague and self-serving reactions to fighters who test positive. And it's not just the HW division.

    Many fans would probably be shocked to discover the scale and depth of PED use in modern boxing. Many current and former hall of famers, legends and champions have a chequered history.

    Of course, VADA and other regulatory bodies need to be as clear about what is PE, and what isn't. I believe there should be distinctions between recreational drug use and PED's.

    Only stiff bans of two years for a first offense and then life bans after that can create a significant deterrent.
    Too many times different bodies have been left in the lurch or been uncoordinated.

    We can never stamp it out, and it's not a problem that is exclusive to boxing. Have a look at cycling. That has taken a major battering, particularly after the Lance Thompson scandal.

    I'm sure it's a difficult task for those trying to catch the cheats, but it seems the WBC's clean boxing program is really starting to lift the rotten floorboards and expose what's underneath. Now it's important to be congruent with penalties and pardons.

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    • Jewish-Reptile
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      #3
      Pit them all against each other, fück them all if one ends up being maimed good they don't deserve to face the clean athletes.

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      • Karoriori
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        It's ridicules how soft the penalties are in combat sport. This isn't cycling or sprinting one fighter juiced up can permanently damage someone.

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        • jaded
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          #5
          It's been going on since the 30's. The US government having nothing better to than hold inquiries into PED's in Pro and Olympic sports created nothing but turmoil. Why shouldn't pro athletes take PED's? They're Pro athletes...they always have and always will.

          It's always known what they will test for before-hand...which makes it known what they won't test for as well. Designer drugs...masking agents/IV flushes...it's all pathetic. Just stop the testing and even the playing field period. Let congress perform more important congressional duties and stay out of sports.

          Carry-on.

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          • nycsmooth
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            #6
            This is just the tip of the iceberg...

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            • SteveM
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              #7
              Originally posted by Kiowhatta
              Good, incisive article. The sanctioning bodies are almost behaving as enablers with their ambivalent, vague and self-serving reactions to fighters who test positive. And it's not just the HW division.

              Many fans would probably be shocked to discover the scale and depth of PED use in modern boxing. Many current and former hall of famers, legends and champions have a chequered history.

              Of course, VADA and other regulatory bodies need to be as clear about what is PE, and what isn't. I believe there should be distinctions between recreational drug use and PED's.

              Only stiff bans of two years for a first offense and then life bans after that can create a significant deterrent.
              Too many times different bodies have been left in the lurch or been uncoordinated.

              We can never stamp it out, and it's not a problem that is exclusive to boxing. Have a look at cycling. That has taken a major battering, particularly after the Lance Thompson scandal.

              I'm sure it's a difficult task for those trying to catch the cheats, but it seems the WBC's clean boxing program is really starting to lift the rotten floorboards and expose what's underneath. Now it's important to be congruent with penalties and pardons.
              Good Post. There is massive corruption in boxing. Breadman is in the game and could stay silent but he says there is a "dark underside" to boxing - and I totally agree. The WBC's program is commendable but only a start. The question is what to do once they are caught. A belt for WBC Clean Champion would be a good start.

              As for other weights - yep it's rife. As Breadman says, "if the A side champion is not demanding VADA testing you have to ask yourself why".

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              • Bronx2245
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                #8
                Very well-written, and very depressing article!

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #9
                  F-HIM!!! Can't STAND CHEATS!!! BAN HIM! He doesn't deserve a shot let the old bastard retire a FRAUD.

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                  • rudy
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                    #10
                    This is the best article seen in a long time but it is true everybody in the top ten has failed or not submitted to random drug testing.

                    It is only matter of time before we find out about Joshua

                    Keith

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