Contrary to ****** Logic. GGG is the boxer in this fight not canelo

[bluepete]

X factor here is speed. There's a huge gap in speed between the two. I could see a fresh Canelo picking a tired Golovkin apart with the right gameplan. And he's great against the ropes, I don't care what you say. Golovkin modus operandi is all about cornering his opponents, Canelo's shoulder roll, which is very efficient contrarily to what you may think, combined with a great chin and durability could end up taking a lot of gas from Golovkin in the early rounds.

And contrarily to what many people think, I don't think Canelo will be intimidated by Golovkin's power which is overrated in my opinion. We're talking about a fighter who wasn't able to score a knockdown against a welterweight. The fight was stopped early and Golovkin did end up breaking his eye socket, but that can be attributed to Brooke's frame more than anything.

Brook was knocked down in the third. Despite the ref no counting it we can all see clearly on the replay that was a knockdown. He hurt Brook fine and chewed him up. We don't actually know how durable Canelo is yet.Watch Golovkin knock out Ishida, completely unconscious, nearly kill Macklin with a body shot. He's power isn't in doubt. We don't know how well Canelo takes one against the middles. If he wins its on not getting hit, not durability. But he fades himself, and goes to the ropes too much. This fight could be a disaster for him.

[Scipio2009]

GGG definitely has fast feet. He has caught up to everybody he's fought, that includes quick fighters like Jacobs, Monroe Jr and Kell Brook.


much faster than Canelo who looked visibly stationary against the likes of Lara, khan and Mayweather...... even Trout.

Golovkin's not going to box with his feet though, and Alvarez is more than happy to not have to try and chase.

Golovkin fights the way he fights; cut the ring down, throw from his comfortable mid-range, and not really do all that much from the inside or long (he's yet to show the skills to fight off of someone's chest if he's forced to).

If you honestly expect Euro-style Golovkin to magically show up (looking at the fights in Germany, you do see a lot of a stiffer Dimitry Pirog-style boxer/puncher) after how many years of Abel Sanchez reworking everything, you're a more hopeful guy than I.

[satiev1]

Canelo has shown he can fight; Golovkin has yet to really show that he can really fight.

Floyd dominated him, but Alvarez has been in with Trout, Floyd, Lara, Angulo (with Virgil Hunter in the corner for tactics), Liam Smith (with Joe Gallagher in the corner for tactics), Amir Khan (again with Virgil), and Chavez Jr (with Nacho Beristan in the corner for tactics) and has performed well in the fights.

Golovkin got put in with Brook (didn't look too hot) and Daniel Jacobs (didn't look too hot either), two fighters who showed up with the world understanding that they can fight at that top level.

Barry Robinson, on AMSBoxing on YouTube, called this "Golovkin's black belt exam" and I think that's pretty spot on. Outside of Alvarez not having the quickest of feet, he's shown himself to be a complete world-level fighter; he can box off of the jab, slug on the inside, fight forward/backward, can set traps, can create offense off of his defense, etc.

If Golovkin blows out Alvarez in 6, it'll make a hell of a statement.

If Golovkin barely edges Alvarez, after barely edging Daniel Jacobs, and the Brook fight being what it was (before the eye went, Brook had already figured the distance and was tagging Golovkin, even with dealing with going up two full weight classes), it'd also make a hell of a statement.

Rather than any talk of Robinson/Hagler, Golovkin would've shown himself to be about as good as the other good fighters of this era.

This is an obvious tangent but Errol Spence Jr showed that he just might be one of the truly special fighters in the history of boxing; put in with a proven good fighter who was game to fight, Spence stepped up, executed the plan, figured out what he was in with, and was on his way to a dominant win over the last half of the fight (Brook's other eye went, but it was clear that Brook had run out of answers to what Spence Jr was putting on him).

Brook/Garcia/Porter all seem to be about at the same level, and Keith Thurman seems to be a hair better than that.

If Thurman and Spence Jr fight, and Spence runs away with the fight the way the Brook fight was headed, Errol Spence Jr proves that he is, indeed, a special fighter.

Jacobs, lemieux, murray, and brooke would beat everyone there except for maybe lara. Jacobs would be the favorite over lara. I can't see lara beating lemieux after what angulo did to him. GGG's opposition > canelo's.

[satiev1]

Golovkin's not going to box with his feet though, and Alvarez is more than happy to not have to try and chase.

Golovkin fights the way he fights; cut the ring down, throw from his comfortable mid-range, and not really do all that much from the inside or long (he's yet to show the skills to fight off of someone's chest if he's forced to).

If you honestly expect Euro-style Golovkin to magically show up (looking at the fights in Germany, you do see a lot of a stiffer Dimitry Pirog-style boxer/puncher) after how many years of Abel Sanchez reworking everything, you're a more hopeful guy than I.

He'll box like he boxed lemieux except with more pressure.

[Mammoth]

He'll box like he boxed lemieux except with more pressure.

Nope..........

[Jimmy 23]

Skillful "Boxer" Golovkin will disappear September 16 and will be just "old, past prime GGG" according to Golovkins fans.

[satiev1]

Nope..........

That's what everyone said pre lemieux fight. You'll learn a little more about boxing come september 16th.

[Mammoth]

That's what everyone said pre lemieux fight. You'll learn a little more about boxing come september 16th.

Canelo is levels above Lemieux

[Scipio2009]

Jacobs, lemieux, murray, and brooke would beat everyone there except for maybe lara. Jacobs would be the favorite over lara. I can't see lara beating lemieux after what angulo did to him. GGG's opposition > canelo's.

David Lemieux got beat by Marco Antonio Rubio, and would've got beat by N'Dam in any semblance of a fair fight (three Montreal judges, a Montreal ref, and a ring that shrunk from the standard size to barely 17'x17' within days of the fight, and yet all Lemieux could muster was a 7-5 rounds win).

Martin Murray has come up short in every fight that he's had beyond Euro-level.

Brook has top-level skills, but at some point, size overcomes skills.

To make such a definitive statement, with no objective evidence to back that up, is laughable.

[Deletrious]

David Lemieux got beat by Marco Antonio Rubio, and would've got beat by N'Dam in any semblance of a fair fight (three Montreal judges, a Montreal ref, and a ring that shrunk from the standard size to barely 17'x17' within days of the fight, and yet all Lemieux could muster was a 7-5 rounds win).

Martin Murray has come up short in every fight that he's had beyond Euro-level.

Brook has top-level skills, but at some point, size overcomes skills.

To make such a definitive statement, with no objective evidence to back that up, is laughable.

Lol What? Lemieux knocked N'Dam down 4 times in 3 rounds. That's a seven point advantage with only 9 other rounds to make up the difference.

Martin Murray has been on the wrong side of a lot of controversial home town decisions. The guy knocked down and out punched Sergio Martinez.