Comments Thread For: Joshua Views Tyson Fury as The Next Mega-Bout at Heavyweight

[E10Rifle]

Answer the question, who beats Wilder right now in the HW division?

A fit and focused Tyson Fury. Wilder wouldn't lay a windmill on him.

And I suppose we're going to ignore that AJ has vastly superior fundamentals to Bumsquad as well, yeah?

Amusing that AJ is being labelled a ducker mere days after fighting - and beating - the division's only current HoF candidate, and subsequently calling out the lineal champ. Shouldn't y'all be squealing like little b****es for AJ to take his mandatory like you did with Brook?

[NYG]

A fit and focused Tyson Fury. Wilder wouldn't lay a windmill on him.

And I suppose we're going to ignore that AJ has vastly superior fundamentals to Bumsquad as well, yeah?

Amusing that AJ is being labelled a ducker mere days after fighting - and beating - the division's only current HoF candidate, and subsequently calling out the lineal champ. Shouldn't y'all be squealing like little b****es for AJ to take his mandatory like you did with Brook?

Fury is a problem for anybody, i agree on that.

What fundamentals? Explain them. Wilder is more athletic than AJ is and can move better.

AJ beat a 41 YEAR OLD KLITSCHKO who hasnt fought in over a year. Good win but he could have been KOd easily too in that fight. It wasnt a great performance by any means. Fury beats Wlad and Wlad is old and washed up, AJ beats him and all of a sudden its a special thing? What the ****?

[E10Rifle]

Fury is a problem for anybody, i agree on that.

What fundamentals? Explain them. Wilder is more athletic than AJ is and can move better.

AJ beat a 41 YEAR OLD KLITSCHKO who hasnt fought in over a year. Good win but he could have been KOd easily too in that fight. It wasnt a great performance by any means. Fury beats Wlad and Wlad is old and washed up, AJ beats him and all of a sudden its a special thing? What the ****?

Is Wilder more athletic than Joshua...? I'm not so sure.

But I'm talking technique; Joshua's hand speed is faster, he throws a wider variety of punches and combinations, his defence is generally tighter and his ability to slip punches through head movement is superior. I'll concede that his footwork leaves a fair bit to be desired.

Thing is, everyone is referring to Wilder's "one punch ko ability" which is fair enough, but AJ has proven that he has the heart and powers of recovery to come back from a big shot and win. Has Wilder (because make no mistake, AJ will chin check him at some point in the bout)? Nope, as the guy has fought nothing but cans who can't fight back his entire career.

As for the WK comparison, they were different fights entirely. Kilt was gunshy against Fury and (comparatively) gung-ho against AJ. They were both great wins for different reasons. People don't want to give Fury the credit he deserves, I guess. Not that I blame them, as he's an absolute bellend.

[NYG]

Is Wilder more athletic than Joshua...? I'm not so sure.

But I'm talking technique; Joshua's hand speed is faster, he throws a wider variety of punches and combinations, his defence is generally tighter and his ability to slip punches through head movement is superior. I'll concede that his footwork leaves a fair bit to be desired.

Thing is, everyone is referring to Wilder's "one punch ko ability" which is fair enough, but AJ has proven that he has the heart and powers of recovery to come back from a big shot and win. Has Wilder (because make no mistake, AJ will chin check him at some point in the bout)? Nope, as the guy has fought nothing but cans who can't fight back his entire career.

As for the WK comparison, they were different fights entirely. Kilt was gunshy against Fury and (comparatively) gung-ho against AJ. They were both great wins for different reasons. People don't want to give Fury the credit he deserves, I guess. Not that I blame them, as he's an absolute bellend.

Fair enough. Good footwork is a big thing though and can make or break a fight and against a taller guy like Wilder, AJ can have a problem there. We'll have to see though.

AJ does have the heart and power but Wilder is probably the hardest puncher in the HW division, his punches are disgusting when they connect and i doubt AJ gets up if he gets hit by them. Not taking anything away from Wlad but i don't think he has the power Wilder has.

Nobody really gives Fury credit for anything but its whatever, numbers don't lie

[E10Rifle]

Fair enough. Good footwork is a big thing though and can make or break a fight and against a taller guy like Wilder, AJ can have a problem there. We'll have to see though.

AJ does have the heart and power but Wilder is probably the hardest puncher in the HW division, his punches are disgusting when they connect and i doubt AJ gets up if he gets hit by them. Not taking anything away from Wlad but i don't think he has the power Wilder has.

Nobody really gives Fury credit for anything but its whatever, numbers don't lie

Wlad fought a really, really **** fight against Fury (don't get me wrong, that was mostly because Fury made him look bad), but that means that people are prepared to write it off as a bit of a fluke. Plus, as already mentioned, he's a fat, hateful ***** c*nt that nobody likes.

With Wilder, I guess I look at Stiverne being the only legit top-level competition he's faced in 38 fights and he couldn't get him out of there. Plus there's the vulgar and probably unhelpful comparison to be drawn between their respective showings against Molina, where Deontay staggered around like a drunk uncle at a wedding before he finally landed a windmill, whereas AJ took him out in a swift and pleasing execution.

No-one in their right mind would discount DW because of his unarguable power, but the guy is 38 fights in without ever truly testing and proving himself. That's a bit of an embarrassment tbh. He needs to defeat a live opponent before you - or anyone - gets to ask "who can beat this guy". AJ has flaws that need to be worked on, but the kid is already proven in a way that Bumsquad simply isn't.

[NYG]

Wlad fought a really, really **** fight against Fury (don't get me wrong, that was mostly because Fury made him look bad), but that means that people are prepared to write it off as a bit of a fluke. Plus, as already mentioned, he's a fat, hateful ***** c*nt that nobody likes.

With Wilder, I guess I look at Stiverne being the only legit top-level competition he's faced in 38 fights and he couldn't get him out of there. Plus there's the vulgar and probably unhelpful comparison to be drawn between their respective showings against Molina, where Deontay staggered around like a drunk uncle at a wedding before he finally landed a windmill, whereas AJ took him out in a swift and pleasing execution.

No-one in their right mind would discount DW because of his unarguable power, but the guy is 38 fights in without ever truly testing and proving himself. That's a bit of an embarrassment tbh. He needs to defeat a live opponent before you - or anyone - gets to ask "who can beat this guy". AJ has flaws that need to be worked on, but the kid is already proven in a way that Bumsquad simply isn't.

Good post. I actually think Fury-Wlad was an ugly fight but sometimes ugly is beautiful in boxing.

Fair enough. I dont look too much into things like not being able to KO a certain fighter in a certain amount of rounds because anything can happen in boxing and sometimes you need to go 12, cant KO everybody for your entire career.

I agree though, i would like to see Wilder fight some top HWs but i just dont think he is the reason that these fights are NOT happening which was what my argument was about. Povetkin isnt bad and Wilder was ready for him and Wilder does say he wants these fights. We just have to wait and see. I also think Wilder KOs Wlad similar to AJ KOing Wlad, fwiw

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

ESPN is a complete joke first of all.

And Joshua went life and death with a guy Fury toyed with who is 41 years old, come on now.

Answer the question, who beats Wilder right now in the HW division? You're underrating Wilder because his competition but its fine. Hilarious that you think he is ducking anybody though. A guy with his size and power doesnt duck nobody, he doesnt have to because one punch can end the bout and the entire HW division knows it.

Again, who did he duck? He never played the "priced himself out" game right? Or faked an injury? Retired?

Again, who beats Wilder right now in the HW division? Everybody hates Wilder nobody has a legitimate argument why

wilder has only managed to duck the top 10 for over two years! of course he has power... but look how long it took for him to ko Molina while AJ DESTROYED Fatboy in 2!! Molina even popped Wilder and made his legs "dance".

[NYG]

wilder has only managed to duck the top 10 for over two years! of course he has power... but look how long it took for him to ko Molina while AJ DESTROYED Fatboy in 2!! Molina even popped Wilder and made his legs "dance".

Prove that he ducked anybody

[Bumpin]

Joshua just won ibo and wba to ad to his ibf wilder had 38 fights still hasnt fought any one of note be easy work once joshua fights him typical over hyped yank been nearly 30 years since a decent american hw came on the scene bowe

If it's been thirty for the Yanks then it's been sixty for the Brits.

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wilder has only managed to duck the top 10 for over two years!

You're an idiot. He's the WBC heavyweight champion of the world and taking on all comers. He hasn't ducked anybody. He could have ducked Povetkin, thrown the WBC belt in the trash and easily picked up the IBF from Martin. Instead he flew to Russia to defend against Povetkin on enemy territory.

Anybody who does that is clearly not ducking.

What top fighter that wants to fight Wilder is Wilder avoiding? He's trying to get Parker or Joshua in the ring with him. He can't force people to fight him.