Comments Thread For: Erislandy Lara Says Demetrius Andrade Priced Himself Out

[K.O. Johnson]

I believe they divide 2.5 - 3 million per card for the fighters. See the recent Lara card with the charlo brothers. No one made 1 million that night. That's why Jermell only made 100k last weekend.

I bet Andrade wants to take half the total purse to fight Lara. Remember that's why he vacated instead of fighting Jermell a few years ago.

You're seriously ******ed and have no idea wtf you are talking about

[bigdunny1]

You have zero evidence that tickets were given away in any major way. The video I posted shows Lara entering the ring with the place full of around 2,500. What are you talking about? Florida is Lara's home base, and that's where he draws the best. It's the relavent place to look at because that's where he's fighting now. He's not the biggest draw, but has more of a fanbase than Andrade. I don't know what arena fight you're referring to. You're probably thinking of Rigo vs Agbeko, and got the Cubans mixed up. That's the one where everyone left before the main event.


So what? He got slightly less than Wilder, who is one of Showtime's biggest draws. It was a down year for Showtime, but it it was a down year for everyone who fought on Showtime, so it's apples to apples.


I said since 2016 because there hasn't been many notable cable fights in 2017. It so far the highest rated free cable fight in 2017 then. Is that what you want to hear? And it's this despite him fighting the worst worst fucking opponent in the world.



I'm comparing apples to apples.



A Cuban got less viewers than Broner, probably boxing's top ratings draw? What a shocker. Khan fought Algirie, a guy who coming of fights with Provoking and Pacquiao. Lara fought a guy who I thought was retired. He would obviously do much higher with someone who isn't complete trash instead of carrying an entire show by himself.



I'm not making a case that he's a huge draw. I'm making a case that he's a relatively okay draw, and much better than how people are acting. On both Showtime and Spike, he drew higher than Daniel Jacobs, a guy who's apparently PPV worthy for Golovkin.

Stop it that's when PBC was literally hiring firms that you use to fill audiences. Google it yourself. There were people posting on these forums the link you clicked on to get free tickets. That crowd ******. He's no draw and at the time the fight started most of the crowd left. Lara is not a draw not in Florida or any other state he fighting in make shift tents instead of real arenas for a reason. His fight in Chicago had a shyt crowd too and that's a small arena and they gave free tickets away that fight too. Unless you think fans bought tickets just to boo his azzz all night. And when did I ever say Andrade is a draw? Neither are but Lara has been overpaid millions for fights that lose money because he can't sell tickets or draw ratings. Spike literally couldn't take lara and canceled their PBC contract after his fight. Why haymon keeps paying him almost 1m when he can't draw I have no clue maybe he has compromising pics of haymon LMAO

And saying he has the highest cable rating is misleading you fool because ONLY prospects and small fights are happening on cable right now all the big fights happening on HBO/SHOWTIME/PPV or network FOX/CBS. So he's competing against himself and the defunct Spike fights which got canceled because the ratings suck. Just because you lower the bar and only compare it to shyt don't make him a draw.

[K.O. Johnson]

when has lara asked for too much money before?

He asked for $3 milly to fight GGG

[DoktorSleepless]

? I said empty arenas you post a video when PBC gave free tickets out to people in Florida in a small make shift tent NOT an arena and you left out the fact they all left before the main event when Lara fought. Show the actual fight video where there were only a couple hundred fans who stayed I know this because he got clowned for this same fight on these forums because the crowd ******.

You have zero evidence that tickets were given away in any major way. The video I posted shows Lara entering the ring with the place full of around 2,500. What are you talking about? Florida is Lara's home base, and that's where he draws the best. It's the relavent place to look at because that's where he's fighting now. He's not the biggest draw, but has more of a fanbase than Andrade. I don't know what arena fight you're referring to. You're probably thinking of Rigo vs Agbeko, and got the Cubans mixed up. That's the one where everyone left before the main event.

As for ratings Lara vs Vanes II drew 491k terrible ratings during the worst tailspin in ratings from showtime. The worst boxing after dark fights on HBO do better then this.

So what? He got slightly less than Wilder, who is one of Showtime's biggest draws. It was a down year for Showtime, but it it was a down year for everyone who fought on Showtime, so it's apples to apples.

Lara/Foreman was in 2017 NOT 2016 and did 547k which is garbage for SPIKE and was the final straw for them to pull the plug on PBC

I said since 2016 because there hasn't been many notable cable fights in 2017. It so far the highest rated free cable fight in 2017 then. Is that what you want to hear? And it's this despite him fighting the worst worst fucking opponent in the world.

Bellator fights with unknown prospects draw higher ratings on spike. 500k is shyt reruns of cops do better then that. You comparing these ratings to shyt ratings on showtime, and shyt PBC ratings on spike to pretend like these are not bad ratings instead of actually comparing it to successful programming.

I'm comparing apples to apples.

Broner and khan drew almost 900k viewers on spike.

A Cuban got less viewers than Broner, probably boxing's top ratings draw? What a shocker. Khan fought Algirie, a guy who coming of fights with Provoking and Pacquiao. Lara fought a guy who I thought was retired. He would obviously do much higher with someone who isn't complete trash instead of carrying an entire show by himself.

Even the biggest Lara fans don't make the case that he is a draw.

I'm not making a case that he's a huge draw. I'm making a case that he's a relatively okay draw, and much better than how people are acting. On both Showtime and Spike, he drew higher than Daniel Jacobs, a guy who's apparently PPV worthy for Golovkin.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

usual suspect telling a "champ" that he's pricing himself out vs an inactive fighter lol

if andrade is not willing to take 30% he's not willing to be a champ..he's entitled to 25% ofa p urse bid..lara can alwasy wait him out...if andrade ducks a purse bid he's fruad..and the sad part is andrade has been one of my fave fighters to watch for a while now..i wanted him to dominate lara...but if lara's words are true..andrade is full of it

Idk if Im misinterpreting your post or if you missed the sarcasm in mine. I was being sarcastic btw.

[Butch.McRae]

Maybe you are unaware that Lara has faced Martirosyan twice, Paul "the Punisher" Williams, Canelo, Angulo, and Trout.

Andrade has faced Martirosyan, Culcay, and Willie freakin Nelson.

Andrade admitted he did not want to fight Lara in July. This would be the first time Andrade faced someone with a chance to beat him, Lara's been fighting those opponents for years. Lara has fought five five-star Boxrec opponents. Andrade has faced zero. Also, Lara did beat Andrade in the amateurs. But just go ahead and spit out some more hate without any actual data or facts to back it up. In other words, keep lying if it makes you feel better.

He's a damn good fighter.

I had to clear up the nonsense about his purse earlier in the thread.
Lara isn't a diva at all in terms of compensation or opponents.

But haters gonna hate I guess.

That's what happens when you piss off two fragile fan bases.

[lex_fugitive]

SEE....I hope all you people saying GGG "ducked" Lara (who doesn't even fight at 160) now realize who the real duck is. Lara's been feasting on tin cans and has-beens, the first time he is faced with a guy who can beat him, he ducks out.

Lara is a running joke, literally.

Maybe you are unaware that Lara has faced Martirosyan twice, Paul "the Punisher" Williams, Canelo, Angulo, and Trout.

Andrade has faced Martirosyan, Culcay, and Willie freakin Nelson.

Andrade admitted he did not want to fight Lara in July. This would be the first time Andrade faced someone with a chance to beat him, Lara's been fighting those opponents for years. Lara has fought five five-star Boxrec opponents. Andrade has faced zero. Also, Lara did beat Andrade in the amateurs. But just go ahead and spit out some more hate without any actual data or facts to back it up. In other words, keep lying if it makes you feel better.

[lex_fugitive]

Andrade has been trying to fight you for years!! He traveled all the way to Germany to fight for only $75K against a hometown guy because YOU refused to accept the Showtime offer to fight Andrade and YOU KNOW IT!!! YOU told Showtime that you wanted another "tune-up" fight first! and you took Yuri Forman instead and now YOU just told them once again you wanted another fight first!!! Always an excuse. The fact is your AFRAID of Andrade period!! Andrade has NEVER EVER received an offer to fight you at any amount. PROVE IT!! Where is the offer??? If you had any B*lls you would tell the truth... You want to fight Andrade??? make any decent offer in writing and you can have the fight and stop lying!!!!

November 17, 2014 @ http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...jermell-charlo
Junior middleweight world titleholder Demetrius Andrade, unhappy with his purse and by a lack of communication with his promoters, has dropped out of a defense scheduled against Jermell Charlo on Dec. 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

July 4, 2016 @ http://www.boxingscene.com/demetrius....MKI5wxSG.dpuf
“Don’t get me wrong. Lara is an interesting fight because he also is slick…“I don’t know. If that’s the last resort, than yeah, I’m going to take the fight,” he said… Interestingly, while Andrade doesn’t want the WBA “super” titleholder in Lara, he would be OK with facing the secondary titleholder, Jack Culcay”

October 31, 2016 @ http://www.badlefthook.com/2016/10/3...lcay-collapses
The upcoming WBA super welterweight title bout between Demetrius Andrade and Jack Culcay, which was scheduled for this Saturday (November 5th), is dead in the water. Andrade and his team reportedly missed several deadlines, ultimately signing the contract just last week.

Andrade straight up said he did not want to fight Lara just last July! You gonna hate, that's fine, but at least get the facts right.

[Raonic]

Lol at the irony of this.

I mean he has every right to reject Andrade but he's a bum at the box office too.

[Jsmooth9876]

He didn't want to get paid 1000 kipahh's like Lara's last opponent ?