Comments Thread For: Roach Yearns For Manny Pacquiao vs. Mikey Garcia in The Fall

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

If WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (59-6-2, 38 KOs) takes care of 2012 Australian Olympian Jeff Horn as expected on July 1st in Australia, the Filipino superstar's trainer Freddie Roach has a particular fight in mind for 'the Pac Man' moving forward.
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[Bronx2245]

We've all seen this movie before. Every time Manny has a fight with a "B-Class" fighter, Roach brings up an "A-Class" fighter as a possible foe for "next time." Actions speak louder than words. Bradley, Vargas, Horn! It is what it is!

[MisanthropicNY]

Mikey doesn't want that.

[Fabes88]

We've all seen this movie before. Every time Manny has a fight with a "B-Class" fighter, Roach brings up an "A-Class" fighter as a possible foe for "next time." Actions speak louder than words. Bradley, Vargas, Horn! It is what it is!

Exactly. Probably end up with manny vs provodnikov next.

[MisanthropicNY]

We've all seen this movie before. Every time Manny has a fight with a "B-Class" fighter, Roach brings up an "A-Class" fighter as a possible foe for "next time." Actions speak louder than words. Bradley, Vargas, Horn! It is what it is!

How is Bradley not an "A-Class" fighter? He's only lost to Manny - the GOAT, you Fem Cuck.

[The Big Dunn]

His trainer yearns for him to fight the best LW in the world rather than the other WW champs?

Worse, its a guy he knows Bob will not make a fight with because he just left TR.

Speaks volumes!

[The Big Dunn]

Mikey doesn't want that.

Typical Manny fan. His trainer expresses wanting to fight a LW and you suggest Mikey doesn't want it. Why would he, he is probably thinking about fighting other LW champs.

Would be nice if Team Manny was thinking about fighting other WW champs.

[Boxing Logic]

Yes please, but unless he re-signs with Top Rank, can this fight really happen?

Like if Arum is going to risk passing Manny's star power onto someone with Manny's first non-Floyd "loss" or non-Marquez loss of the last decade, is he really going to do that with Mikey Garcia who could sign with Al Haymon afterwards?

The way Bob Arum typically runs his business, it seems like the top guy he would want to face and beat Pacquiao is Lomachenko, because that's the highest star potential. Then the second guy he would want, who might actually become the first choice just because the size difference isn't an issue like it would be with Lomachenko, is Crawford.

For Mikey Garcia... well, hmmm, maybe the plan is to make Mikey Garcia the weight bridge to ultimately transfer Pacquiao's star power to Lomachenko? As in, Pacquiao is too big for Lomachenko to fight, but Mikey is not, so if Mikey could beat Pacquiao, but then Lomachenko could beat Mikey, that would work almost as well for Lomachenko, and Bob Arum.

Maybe Bob Arum makes Mikey vs Pacquiao if part of the agreement is that if Mikey beats Pacquiao, Arum gets options on Mikey's next few fights, and one of those has to be against Lomachenko at 135?

Not to mention, that would also work amazingly for Mikey Garcia. In terms of paydays, and risk reward, and legacy, you can't find a better deal out there than getting to face an older, less dangerous Pacquiao for good legacy, big money, on a huge stage for casual fans and hardcore fans, and then if you win, get to face a still good money, huge legacy, huge stage for hardcore fans, but smaller guy in Lomachenko.

Mikey Garcia could be in a position where he can literally become the biggest star in boxing simply by beating an old guy, and a way, way smaller guy, and he would get to make over 10 million bucks in the process. And if he comes out on top of those two fights, who knows how much he could make after that. So if this is the plan, and I am just speculating, I think it is a home run for all involved.

Of course, if Pacquiao beats Mikey, then rehyping the Garcia-Lomachenko fight will take a little longer, but really it's not that big a deal. They could just say Mikey didn't handle 147 as well as he thought he would, and bring him back to 135 or 140, have him dominate the best guy there in his comeback fight, and immediately he is back in the P4P conversation, just at the lower weight. Then Arum would probably feed Pacquiao to Crawford, and still save face for his promotional company, although building Lomachenko would be a little harder if Mikey already lost to Pacquiao.

But that's what I hope we see... Lomachenko vs Linares in the summer, then Mikey vs Pacquiao in the fall with Salido vs Lomachenko on the undercard, then if Mikey wins, he fights Lomachenko at 135, if Pacquiao wins, he should also fight Lomachenko at say 136 if he can make the weight, otherwise he should fight Crawford. Then depending on all the winners, you could make Crawford-Mikey by summer next year, and I think all three of Lomachenko, Mikey, and Crawford will be much bigger stars after those fights to carry boxing forward no matter if they all lose one of those fights, or who wins. That kind of tournament between p4p level guys in surrounding weights all taking place within a year, one big matchup after another, is what will generate the kind of excitement and momentum that boxing is still lacking.

It's what Manny Pacquiao was able to do to go from an unknown to a superstar, but what no one has been able to do since, or even gotten the opportunity to do because of the fractured nature of boxing. I think GGG could have gone on a run like that at least between 154 and 168 had he had the opponents, but there were no Barrera's or Morales's around his weight class who came calling during his prime, sadly. But, Lomachenko and Mikey have that opportunity now, to a degree. Between Salido, Linares, and Mikey and maybe even Pacquiao for Lomachenko, and Pacquiao, Lomachenko, and Crawford for Mikey, and Pacquiao and Mikey for Crawford (not to mention Thurman, Spence, etc for both Mikey and Crawford down the line), there are a ton of fights they could make one after another the next few years and not run out of current name guys, let alone the guys who will come down the line.

I hope all these fights are made before these guys hit 30, so we don't have another Kovalev-Ward situation where one guy can't even fight 6 rounds without gassing anymore at age 34, which takes all the excitement out of the fight. NOTE TO PROMOTERS: MAKE THE FIGHTS WHEN THEY ARE HOT, WHEN THE FIGHTERS ARE AT THEIR PEAKS, OR WATCH THE PRODUCT CONTINUE TO DECLINE, AND THE POPULARITY OF THIS SPORT ALONG WITH IT.

[Nightfall]

Money grab. Not mad

[JASON SHAW]

CUCKROACH & POOCHQUIAO THE SHAMELESS CHERRYPICKERS... FIRST VARGAS, NOW HORN THEN MIKEY A 135 POUNDER? WHAT A JOKE..... RUNNING SCARED FROM THURMAN, BROOK AND CRAWFORD RIGHT INTO JEFF HORNS ARMS....