Comments Thread For: Weekend blowout seals the deal: Lomachenko is P4P's best man

[MC Hammer]

Froch is a limited fighter in my book.

Despite having a great record.

He lost to Ward, Kessler and I thought he lost to Dirrell ie lost to any elite fighter he fought.


Hopkins woulda schooled Froch, Calzaghe too.

Never was impressed.

There is nothing overly impressive in beating Froch, Taylor was leading before getting KTFO in the 12th.

Froch was a good fighter who managed to get a very good record, never was a A fighter in my book.

So you're pretty much saying results don't matter only you're perceptions do smh

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

russell was a highly touted PROSPECT at the time they fought, nicolas walters beat an already defeated nonito donaire who got beat by Guillermo Rigondeaux. i liked nicolas walters BUT when i examine his resume i gotta take issue with who he actually beat its a SOLID NAME but NONE of those people was lineal, unified and walters had one belt i believe
he lost to orlando salido who had like 12 LOSSES at the time he fought lomachenko how can this NONSENSE even be justified.

Walters did not fight Salido and was undefeated at the time Loma dominated and stopped him... Russell already had 23 fights to Loma's 2 pro fights at the time he was dominated ...at what point do U stop calling a fighter a PROSPECT..?? I would say 23 fights in U R no longer considered a PROSPECT... He won a title less than a year later.

[BillyBoxing]

So you're pretty much saying results don't matter only you're perceptions do smh

I didn't say resume con't matter, but the eye test count too.

Froch wan't as great as you Wardtards are pretending IMO.

[BillyBoxing]

well im not alone in either there's plenty of ppl who back what i say in both i had jacobs winning 114-113
& ward 114-113

So blacksoul had Salido, Jacobs and Ward winning over the whiteys, that is definitely surprising...

[BillyBoxing]

[QUOTE=BlackSoul;17587230]what are they actually "taking over"? Terence Crawford is top 3 p4p Guillermo Rigondeaux is top 5 bc HE IS THE MOST FEARED FIGHTER IN ALL OF BOXING

I don't care about P4P lists, it's just bias, some list have Golovkin wich is ridiculous others have a Ward, a guy who lost his last fight in many eyez and except that particular fight hasn't fought a live body for 6 years.

How is that P4P?

[BlackSoul]

Walters did not fight Salido and was undefeated at the time Loma dominated and stopped him... Russell already had 23 fights to Loma's 2 pro fights at the time he was dominated ...at what point do U stop calling a fighter a PROSPECT..?? I would say 23 fights in U R no longer considered a PROSPECT... He won a title less than a year later.

easy response
how long of a layoff was walters on when he faced lomachenko?
who had russel faced before loma?

[BlackSoul]

So blacksoul had Salido, Jacobs and Ward winning over the whiteys, that is definitely surprising...

so salido didnt beat the "whitey"? haha
i dont think golovkin did enough against jacobs & LOADS of fans agree
as well as ward v kovalev ward won that fight on my scorecard 114-113

[BlackSoul]

[QUOTE=BillyBoxing;17588630]

what are they actually "taking over"? Terence Crawford is top 3 p4p Guillermo Rigondeaux is top 5 bc HE IS THE MOST FEARED FIGHTER IN ALL OF BOXING

I don't care about P4P lists, it's just bias, some list have Golovkin wich is ridiculous others have a Ward, a guy who lost his last fight in many eyez and except that particular fight hasn't fought a live body for 6 years.

How is that P4P?

ward has earned his spot golovkin hasnt. cleaned out 168 jumped up and fought the #1 contender in sullivan barrera who was kovalevs mandatory for his wba belt eliminated him from contention and fought kovalev and won a close narrow margin with the supposed 175 champ(even tho the REAL LINEAL CHAMP is adonis stevenson). how does that not qualify him for being #1? he was #2 while mayweather was here. and went up in weight and fought his 3rd fight at that weight the "consensus" 175 champ and beat him in the eyes of many. fighting tough comp maintaining your resume and beating people and dominating in a fashion for LONGEVITY is a MAJOR reason he is p4p #1 any more questions?

[MC Hammer]

I didn't say resume con't matter, but the eye test count too.

Froch wan't as great as you Wardtards are pretending IMO.

First ballot HoFer and again 5-10 times better than GRJ (at the point he lost to Loma) and Walters (Ever). You asked if the Froch win was better the answer is an obvious yes. Stop bending over backward to give Loma praise he'll get it in time.

The eye test counts only based off of competition. Anyone good guy can look good against a B or C fighter. For the eye test to have merit you need comp. Point blank.

[mynameismyname]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuz2qrLqUn8

full fight for anyone who's interested. loma is def p4p #1