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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Marvin Hagler - CompuBox Looks Back

    This fight was real drama and surrealistic at the same time. Drama, because Leonard was a part of the HBO boxing team during his 35-month layoff prior to challenging Hagler. We worked together and became friends, sitting ringside, observing Hagler's destruction of the middleweight division. Then, when Leonard signed to fight Hagler, he hired CompuBox to compile an analysis of Hagler's previous fights as well as attend Ray's sparring sessions in January of 1987 in Palmer Park, Maryland.
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    This was never controversial to me. A closely contested fight that I've always had Ray as the victor.

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    • The plunger man
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      This answers all the idiots who still insite that hagler won....leonard won rounds 1,2,3,4,6,10,11 and even 12 if yiu go by stats....where are the hagler fns to answer this post....leonard rounds were all clear rounds and haglers rounds were much closer..no way did hagler win this fight

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      • licketysplityu
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        Power punches by Leonard? You're kidding me, right?

        He threw little pitty-pat punches and ran for the whole fight.
        You can't take a champions belt(s) away on that kind of a fight...

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        • Johnwoo8686
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          I would have been shocked if compubox had Hagler landing more punches. I always saw Ray as the rightful victor. The fight was close, as the compubox numbers suggested, but Leonard won. I scored the fight seven rounds to five.

          The thing about overhyped matchups is that people watch them through an emotional prism. They see what they want to see depending on how they feel about the fighters. They always pull for the guys they like. If the fight is close they'll say their guy won even when he lost a close fight.

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          • licketysplityu
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            Leonard only had one great fight in his career--the one were he was losing and knocked Hearns out in the 14th.

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            • Liondw
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              Hagler could have had a victory had he not thrown away the first four rounds in persisting with an ill-advised orthodox stance, as opposed to his usual southpaw stance.

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                Hagler could have had a victory had he not thrown away the first four rounds in persisting with an ill-advised orthodox stance, as opposed to his usual southpaw stance. After such a long layoff, Leonard was spectacular.

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                • Progrssive_Jedi
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                  This was a legit close fight that came down to how you score fights. Hagler clearly landed more impactful shots, while ray landed the flashier judge friendly shots. Not all the time. But it was a legit back and forth.



                  Originally posted by The plunger man
                  This answers all the idiots who still insite that hagler won....leonard won rounds 1,2,3,4,6,10,11 and even 12 if yiu go by stats....where are the hagler fns to answer this post....leonard rounds were all clear rounds and haglers rounds were much closer..no way did hagler win this fight
                  That's not a bad way to look at it. It's also how I score the recent controversial fights.

                  Ward skated by on rounds he won, while rounds Kov should have won were clear.

                  That's how I scored the GGG/Jacobs fight, with the close Jacobs rounds being just by skin of his teeth, while ggg rounds were pretty dominant.

                  My issue is far too often we went to give the smaller fighter rounds just because he managed to survive.

                  Yet, not always, hense some take Gonzalez and GGG rounds from them even though they were smaller.

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                  • v.cassiusali@ya
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                    It was a split decision for Leonard. Yes it was close but Leonard had it.

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